EP 91: Tempt Me by K.A. Tucker & Nina West
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Cuz it's time for Smite Club. Here's
your hosts, Chelsea and Hannah.
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Hey everybody and welcome to Smut Club.
I'm Hannah and I'm Chelsea and this is
the podcast where we are two licensed
mental health professionals who enjoy
daydrinking and reviewing shitty romance
novels.
Yeah,
sometimes not shitty, sometimes shitty.
today.
Hannah,
don't scare them off. We just got here.
Y'all, when I tell you Chelsea told me
this morning what we were reviewing
and I had a visceral response to that
and then and then I somehow
repressed it and was like, "No." and
completely forgot what we were doing
until I just looked at your phone screen
and saw your notes and immediately just
god damn it.
Take a deep breath. Hydrate, meditate,
masturbate, do whatever you need to get
centered. Actually, I take it back that
last one. What the [ __ ]
I don't take it back in general to get
yourself right. I just take it back
when there's a camera on you because we
don't have that sort of payw wall.
I was going to say
that's different.
We need to charge a little extra for
that.
It's a different platform. A
different platform. Yes. Um, for those
wondering what Hannah is losing her [ __ ]
about since we still haven't even told
you, today we are reviewing
She's so annoyed with me right now.
Tempt Me
by Nina West, KA Tucker, the first book
in the Wolf Hotel series.
So, you didn't tell me that this was
what we were reviewing until after I got
here today.
That was by design.
Oh, clearly.
Because I also
just remembered that on the highway from
my house to your household
that says
addicted to sex
Jesus sets free.
Have you called that number?
I have not. No.
I'm curious when you like what resources
do they offer when you call that number?
I don't know. I'm a little bit afraid to
find out, but I am just curious enough
to potentially take that leap. But maybe
Well, and important to remember, um, so
the Wolf series, Hotel series, started
as a four book series. They've now
released a fifth. I read it.
I personally felt like I was good with
the initial four and the initial kind of
box set.
Um, but this is just the first book,
correct? So, wasn't Wow, that would have
been a journey. We would need several
episodes. And if like we might review
Sure. If you guys want to hear more.
Yeah.
Let us know so that Chelsea can do that
for you.
I'd be happy to do that for you. Yeah,
I'm I'm happy to. Hannah is
accommodating with a lot of weird
monster [ __ ] Um Mhm.
I feel like I the dark like the mafia
romances I feel like are more like my
bread and butter than yours.
But we we read everything.
I was going to say we I think we both go
through phases for these things cuz I
have read all four of these to begin
years ago though and I can't even tell
you now sitting with you why.
Well, that's the funniest part is like I
you read this series for as silly as
this sounds. I know you read this series
in 2021.
Yeah.
Cuz we had just started working together
and we were like talking about books
and I'd asked if you'd read it and
you're like, "It's on my list." And then
like a couple weeks later you're like,
"Well, I read it."
Betrayed. That was the first true test
of our friendship.
But I also know this is a really popular
series. People really love it. And so
here's my challenge for you today,
Hannah. Hm.
Maybe today you can try and find what
others connect with in this book and see
what speaks to them about it.
Okay, I can do that. I can I can um take
on more of an attitude of curiosity and
set some of my judgment aside for this
journey today. No, I'm ready.
Serious lasso.
Okay.
You've watched Hasso, right?
Yes.
Yeah. Okay. I was like, "My reference
made sense."
It did. It did.
Okay. So, as we said, this is Tempt Me,
the first book in the Wolf Hotel series,
which very transparently, I think I just
know as the Wolf Hotel series. When I
opened the book, I was like, "Huh, Tempt
Me? I guess they do have individual
names."
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
But I was like, I should have known
that. Um, I didn't, but I also read it
years and years ago initially. So, we
open with Abby Mitchell. Mhm.
Abby is 21.
She is uh it's not a good day to be Abby
Mitchell. She just found out that her
boyfriend is cheating on her.
And this is the guy that like she's been
with him since they were 16. Very
conservative Christian household. Like
they're saving themselves for marriage.
Well, she's saving herself for marriage.
He is plowing another girl on campus.
his dad is their like hometown pastor
sort of energy.
Um,
and right from the rip, the like
Christian [ __ ]
of him being like, "No, like it's going
to be such a gift when you give me your
virginity on our wedding night and that
you're saving oursel like saving
yourself for us." But like it's
different for dudes. So, like I have to
like work out this energy now
when it's like low stakes cuz you
wouldn't want me to like have to work
out this energy later on, would you? And
I'm like,
I can cheat on you now or later. The
choice is yours.
What a generous offering.
Okay. Would you rather me cheat on you
now or when we have a legally binding
agreement?
Tough call. Tough call.
Yeah.
Um
she
is not thrilled with this and he's like,
"Yeah, it's it's not that serious or
anything, but like a couple months go by
on campus and he's like clearly dating
this girl at this point. Like it's more
than just like [ __ ] about."
And Aby's still heartbroken and trying
to figure out what she wants to do. and
they're having a job fair. So, she at
the college job fair goes around and
there's a video inter interview
interview booth for Wolf Lodge in
Alaska.
Um she's applying for the landscaping
team. She definitely
uh
oversells her resume a bit. Sure. um
where she's like
I haven't she's like sure after the
administrative work she's like I've
organized all of these like things like
all these events and festivals and
parties and then she's like yeah I was
like the church admin there was like a a
monthly barbecue or like
potluck technically it's all true but
yes like very much in where you're like
well technically right
it felt like when I put facilitating
snack time on my resume as
right yes Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Which I did facilitate snack time.
Technically true. And not what I really
needed to sell myself,
right? Passing out gummy packs is not
necessarily like the job skill we were
hoping it would be.
I was pouring goldfish. Okay.
Excuse me.
Those can go rogue. One can fly off
unlike a gummy pack.
Yeah.
Just saying. Harder work.
I don't know. Oh, gummy packs. You often
have to wind up opening them for the
kids, you know.
Oh, you know, touche.
Yeah, that is bad.
Pros and cons. Pros and cons. That's
what you learn. Facilitating snack time.
That's what we bring to the table. Make
a note.
I should I should add it back to my
resume.
That decision-m
required. I mean, come on.
Skilled at making decisions in high
stress situations.
facilitating uh the the nutritional
supplementation
in early childhood.
I see no issues.
Hit me up if you need help writing your
resume. I got you.
I want to see that finished resume so
badly.
So, as Aby's leaving this, she's like,
"Oh, so like when will I hear back?"
sort of like
and they're like, "Well, you know, we're
like looking for people with like luxury
hotel experience." So, she assumes her
application is dead on on arrival. Sure.
Um but she plot twist, she ends up
getting the job.
So, she like takes her final exams and
then like flies out the next day. She's
thrilled because if she weren't going to
Alaska to work, she would be leaving.
So, she goes to college in Chicago. Um,
she's from a small town in Pennsylvania
and she's like, "If I didn't get this
job, I would be going back to
Pennsylvania for the summer. Like, I'd
be going back to my parents, our small
town, who all expects me and Jed to get
back together." Oh, great news. Jed
brought the girl back to town. Yeah.
Brought the Jezebel back to town.
Um, so she's like, I don't want to be
there. And so she's just like, "I'm a
little out of my depth here, but like
it's a it's a good option.
Figure it out."
Yes. 1,000%.
Um, so when she gets there, I mean, it's
beautiful. It's magical. It's everything
you expect a luxury hotel in Alaska to
be. Um, her flight was delayed and so
she missed the initial like portion of
orientation and she finds out like she
thought she was applying for the
landscaping team. Um, and they're like,
"Yeah, so you're on housekeeping and
guest services." And she's like, "Wait,
what? Like that's not
Mhm.
I shouldn't be how like that's not even
what I talked to you about when I when I
did interview,
right?"
And Belinda is the one at the front
desk, the hotel manager, and she seems
like, "Yeah, I'll look into it. I'm busy
doing other things now. We're opening a
brand new luxury hotel
in a couple of days.
Go put some sheets on some beds. like
why are you bothering me with this kind
of energy?
If it's a problem for you, you can get
back on the ferry and turn around. I'm
busy, right,
doing real things.
Um, and quite frankly, I think that is
probably some of my frustration with
Abby throughout this book is like
she's so in her head about everything
that I'm like other people are having
experiences
like it's not just about you.
Mhm. for what it's worth.
Um, she calls her mom uh to tell her
that she's safe and her mom is
immediately like, "Are there any good
Christians around?" Like that sort of
like
Also, what the [ __ ] kind of question is
that? Your daughter landed
thousands of miles away from you,
right?
Are there any good Christians? Do they
have a bell on? Like, how do you
identify them?
I just got here. Like,
yes. Um,
she just got off the ferry. I don't know
what you think is happening.
I I haven't had time to hit up the FCA
yet. Like
to hit up the FCA.
Or what was the other one in college?
BCM.
Oh, we didn't have that one.
Uh, Baptist Collegiate Ministries or
something like that.
Oh,
I think it was BCM. I was gonna change
it to FCH and it could be the Fellowship
of Christian housekeepers.
That's very
That's not college here, right? This is
an adult job for our our college girl.
So, that makes it even harder to find
good Christians cuz they don't belong to
any clubs, any social clubs. How do you
know?
Well, and she'd been at that
conservative Christian college in
Chicago, you know,
where everybody's having premarital sex
but her, apparently.
Yeah. I um heard a song this week by
Elizabeth Nichols off her new EP
and the line the song is called like
Bible belt or something like that. But
one of the lines is like I pray before I
eat, they pray after they cheat.
And I was like, "Oh, damn girl. Oh,
damn."
Shots fired.
Yeah.
So that's like I'm not going to get into
it, but protests have been happening.
Somebody posted a protest sign from the
town where I live, which is in a very,
very red area, but it said, "Your papa
didn't run shine through these hollers
for you to be a bootlicker." And I
almost fell out. That is incredible.
I was like, "Oh shit."
Oh my god.
Wow. Do you know the person who had that
sign?
Oh yeah. I was going to say if not your
town's not that large. I'm sure you're
friends with them now.
Oh yeah.
If you didn't start as friends with them
before that sign.
Oh yeah. I was like you are a person I
want to know because that's incredible.
Um on my time hop it came up that like I
guess 14 years ago now I had was on
staff at this church and I tweeted dear
person whose ringtone just started
playing R. Kelly in church. It wasn't R.
Kelly. It was uh
whoever it was. That's not really
Usher. Yes. Diddy.
One of those [ __ ] like that where I was
just like, "Dear person whose phone just
went off in church, let's be friends."
Like,
if your ringtone just went off in church
and that's what you're playing, we're
going to get along just fine.
Hit me up. Thank you.
So Aby's had the uncomfortable call with
her mom that she's there and safe and is
kind of trying to settle in. She meets
her roommates and there's definitely
continued culture shock in that uh this
is a dorm living situation. So it's her
and five other girls on three sets of
bunk beds.
Oh. which it seems as though like that
it was kind of set up where like their
schedules
will line up where it won't be too
horrible and feel like they're all on
top of each other supposedly,
right?
Um but like they're all talking about
the hot owner, uh Henry Wolf, um aptly
named hotel, right? And like her
bedmate, I think Autumn is her bed mate,
is like, "Oh yeah, I took the top two
drawers, the bottom two are yours, and
the middle one is our shared underwear
drawer. I put a divider in it. It's
like, we'll each have our own space. And
she's like, what? This is so much. Then
she like she's like putting her clothes
away and opens the drawer and she's
like, "Oh, there's just like a giant
dildo in this." And just things that
you're like, "Well, yes, a lot of people
put their sex toys in their underwear
drawer."
Yeah.
You just happen to have a shared
underwear drawer. Like
these things are kind But like Aby's
just This is so out of her depth, right?
Right.
Um, and they're all talking about
drinking at the staff party that night
and Aby's like, "I've never been drunk
before. Like I I've always been warned
against the devil juice." I Those were
my words, not for the record. I saw it
on your face. Um, yeah. Like the
roommates are like changing clothes
openly and she's just like, "Oh, I'm so
used to like changing clothes behind
closed doors." and just a lot of
like I guess valid and legitimate
culture shock, but things that you're
like, "Oh, like there's nothing actually
like egregious or inappropriate
happening. It's just like,
oh, this is not the world that you grew
up in,
right? Her bubble is bursting, but not
in a violent way, just in a a way she
hasn't been exposed to."
Yes. I think she's really having to like
process a lot of that. I think upon my
reread of
this book I was a like I think the first
time I read it I was just like oh my
gosh Aby's so insecure I want to punch
her in the throat like go to therapy
girl and I still think everyone should
go to therapy right and I think also
if I allow myself to read this book and
look through the lens of like oh this is
a coming of age tale
it gives me a lot more sympathy
right
um
right
and makes me a little less annoyed as
she's like navigating some of these
things that you're like, "Oh, honey,
why?" Like, "This is painful to watch."
That makes sense. But this is part of
her
growth, right? Is like she is choosing
to step out of her comfort zone. She is
choosing to learn these things and like
that can we can give her some credit for
her her courage and her willingness
to step into a space she's not not
familiar with.
1,000%. And if like all you've ever done
is been in like cuz at one point I know
she's like talking to her mom on the
phone and she like makes a comment about
how her mom has never left their small
town.
So like yes if that is all you've known
and suddenly the world has opened up to
you in wild new ways. I get where I get
where it's a lot. Yeah. And so that
night, all of the new staff uh is just
having a party and hanging out and she
is
absolutely trashed because she's never
really had alcohol before, doesn't know
how to hold her alcohol, and gets
blitzed. Like, and she's like, "Alcohol
is so fun. Why haven't I been doing this
more often?" Like, that is her energy.
Um
why isn't everybody drunk all the time?
Yes. But like
Hannah and I like felt knowing your
frustrations like with this book when I
chose to outline it.
I think one of the things I was like I
think it's just a level of cringe.
Mhm.
Like the whole book you're just like
it's a physical
Yes.
Like like my shoulders go up to my ears.
Yes. because she's drunk at this party
telling anyone and everyone who will
listen about her fianceé who cheated on
her. Like drunkenly talking about how
like he cheated. She's a virgin. Just
like to these people she doesn't know.
Yeah.
She just met them. Like bless her new
roommates for kind of like, "All right,
time to like go back to the room."
Okay,
make sure you drink some water tonight.
This is new for you, right?
Let's take some ibuprofen and go to bed,
kiddo.
Yes. So her roommate Tilly ends up
walking her back to the dorm, but Abby
can't go to sleep. That would be too
easy. So she's like, "You you go Tilly.
I'm going to go down to the water and
like
drown." That's what I always think when
people are like, "I'm going to go
swimming while they're like drunk or
high in a book. You're going to drown."
I'm like mm- I think she just wanted to
like sit on the dock and like stare in
the mountains. But
sure, but also to your point, at one
point she goes, "I wonder how cold the
water is." So she like goes to like dip
her fingers in it. Her glasses fall off
her face cuz she's once again three
sheets to the wind.
She then is like, "I should lean over
and try and get my glasses." Girl, it is
a lake in Alaska. Your glasses are gone.
But she tries to reach for them and then
feels strong arms like grabbing her and
pulling her back and being like, "What
the hell are you doing?" And she's like,
"My glasses fell in." And the voice
attached to the arms is like, "They're
gone." Like,
"Diddo,
Angel Baby Honey, that is not
I hope you have a backup pair because
yes,
your originals will not be retrieved."
Well, and he's like, "You need to be
careful." And she's like, "You're not
the boss of me. Only the boss is the
boss of me." And the boss isn't here.
I've heard he's a hot billionaire that
like what? Like people call him the big
bad w like she's just once again still
trash
running her [ __ ] mouth.
Yes.
Shut up. And she like is so drunk she
refuses to go back to the dorm until she
can like try to get her glasses. So
bless this sweet person's heart. They're
like, "Okay, I guess I'll like secure
her and like anchor her to the dock
while she reaches into the water." And
then she's like, "I can't find them."
He's like, "No [ __ ] shit."
Oh, glad we could we figured that out.
You're cute, but you are drunk.
So cringe the whole time. like and she's
jumped to the point that like this
person is now this man large man is like
let me get you back to the dorm. So like
he's carrying her back. She's like
nuzzling into him like like rubbing his
beard and being this beard makes you
look like a lumberjack. Just like
not nuzzling.
Yeah. nuzzling like and at one point
like is like also prattling on to this
person carrying her about her fiance who
cheated on her and how she's a virgin
and she's like it would you [ __ ] me if I
asked like would you take my virginity?
I'm like
can you imagine just me I'm just trying
to get this drunk girl home
just trying to get her back.
Oh god.
Yeah, it is. It's hard to read.
Yeah.
Yeah. I think that's that's what a lot
of this one comes back to.
Yeah.
And like
the person carrying her is clearly
trying to be appropriate and like
Right. Right. Trying to be gentle and
helpful and not a creep.
Yes.
In a very easily creepy situation.
1,000%.
Um, and so he gets her back to the dorm,
has to like help her with the key and
such, and she kisses him, and then asks
his name, and he's like, "Henry, or some
people might call me the big bad wolf."
And then she's like,
like, and he just like closes the door
and like put like he's like, "You're
inside. Good night." And like that's his
like final statement to her.
Yes.
M unfortunate.
But you saw it. You saw it coming from a
mile and a half, right?
But it's one of those where it's like,
yep. So many deep eyes.
Just I don't know. Maybe I watched too
much Dine, but drowned and murdered.
Like murdered and drowned. Whatever
order. Like none of it's good. I don't
like it.
Whatever order,
you know, murder, drowning, I don't
know. Choose your order,
right? Choose your own.
Do you watch a lot of
murder?
Um, so my husband loves true crime.
Yeah.
In all forms.
Okay.
And so often if I am reading or doing
something else, he will put on a random
date line. For a case that he's already
listened to eight podcasts about often.
Um, yeah. I will say one thing that I
deeply
miss about living in Nashville is that
the time that I was in Nashville was
probably when I was like the most locked
into true crime stuff and like
like my favorite murder had really come
on the scene at the time and things like
that.
Um
I just completely lost where that
thought was going
about true crime. Oh, the thing that I
really miss is that that was also when I
trained police officers. And so there
would be times where I'd be like hanging
out with a group of officers and I'd be
like, "Have you watched that Netflix
documentary?
Talk me through it.
Let's discuss.
Talk me through it."
And they would always have such like
fascinating opinions. I'm like, "Oh,
that is a lens that I did not see this
through because I was not looking at the
evidence the same way you were."
Huh. So, I do really miss just having a
pool of police officers that I could
pull about true crime. Whenever I had
question,
whatever case,
I'm like, let's staff this one. They're
like, no need, Chelsea. This is not
ours. It happened five states away 20
years ago. And I'm like, you never know
what we could find. Maybe we should talk
it through. Matt texted me the other day
to be like, "Oh my god, Jerry from Parks
and Wreck is going to be in the new
Murdoch murder
show on Hulu." and he's so excited about
Jerry from Parks and Wreck being one of
the like Murdoch brothers or whatever
the [ __ ] in this Hulu show. I was like,
"Dude, does this mean we have to get
Hulu?" I don't
You can borrow mine. It's fine.
Good looking out. We won't step on each
other's toes cuz you wouldn't be
watching that anyway, probably.
No. And we literally have a profile made
for guests so you don't have to [ __ ]
with our [ __ ] at all.
That's awesome.
Yes. Yeah.
Although I have given to a couple of
family members our peacock password
because they all wanted to watch Love
Island.
I've had no short login from the same.
I'm like there's five of them in the
house. So I'm like have Okay, so you've
all logged in on your personal devices
and two shared devices. I'm like I don't
give a [ __ ] as long as you're on the
guest one. And I opened our personal
account and said we are not on episode
9. I will cut a [ __ ] No, I am
benevolently benevolently shar I can say
the word. It's fine. How much fun have I
had? I am benevolently sharing my
password with you and you have the
audacity to not click the guest profile.
That is the quickest way to lose access
to Love Island for the rest of the
season.
I was like, "No, no, no. Don't don't
mess with ours. Happy to share our
passwords."
I love it.
Don't mess with ours. Noted. Noted.
Well, at this point I at one point I
think my whole family we all like were
share. Like we had a couple streaming
services. My sister and brother-in-law
had a couple. My parents had some and we
were all kind of sharing and I looked
recently and I was like [ __ ] I pay for
like 90% of these. I'm like when did I
start?
How did that happen?
Yeah. I was like we should be sharing
the wealth here.
I guess we are. You are the wealth,
which is
unfortunate.
If if we are the wealth in this
situation, something has gone horribly
arry.
It's a dark commentary,
right? Okay, so the next morning my own
glasses off my face.
Crushing it.
Going to take a sip of wine.
Reset.
Okay. Okay. So, we we left Abby at being
dropped off by the big bad wolf in her
room. And now it's the next morning.
She's experiencing her first hangover.
And she's realizing why people don't get
drunk all the time and every night and
the less fun side of alcohol.
Um,
and she is really aware of like, oh, I
last night was not great. Okay, whoops.
I'm not feeling great. Here we go. we
just got to suck it up. This is our
first day. So, they're at like the big
orientation for all of the employees who
have been fied in and they bring out the
owner of the hotel, Henry, to like greet
all of them.
What up, Hank?
Right. And he's talking about how much
the property means to him, how like it
was his grandparents' property and like
just he wants this place to do really
well. Sure. Um and he also issues a
warning as he's like about to leave the
stage. She's like, "And just as a
reminder, uh, we have designated staff
areas versus guest areas, and we there's
already been one instance of drunk and
disorderly
like conduct by an employee. So, if we
could
lock it down." Uh-huh.
I'm like, "Ooh, imagine being in a like,
I don't know, 100 plus employee
orientation. I'm making up a number."
And there's a call out specific to your
[ __ ] up last night. So, I have to tell
you, if I were in that meeting, even if
I had stayed in my room the whole night,
I would have been like, "It was me,
wasn't it? Where did I go?"
Because that's my anxiety.
You're like, "I didn't even go to the
staff party."
I'd be like, "Oh my god, is my bunk off
limits?
Like, it's just my bunk. I [ __ ] up so
bad. Did I go to the wrong shared
bathroom or something?" Like, okay,
we've had conversations about this like
as a family about how we respond to
things like that or like
specifically we've had conversations
about if your boss says, "Hey, are you
free to connect for a few minutes?"
Your innate
response to that. And me and my
mother-in-law both automatically assume
we're getting fired. We assume we're
getting written up. We assume we did
something horribly wrong. Yep.
And we'll no longer be employed.
Fun fact, there are people who don't
think that. Hannah,
I know
it's w like
it's bananas.
My husband and my sister-in-law were
shocked. They're like, why wouldn't my
boss want to talk to me? I'm a great
hang with great ideas.
No.
And I'm like, what? Huh? You guys just
They shouldn't even know my name.
They shouldn't know my name.
Like like you shouldn't know what I look
like. None of You shouldn't know what I
look like.
None of it. I don't I don't want eye
contact. I have grown a lot. This is
definitely like 21 22year-old Hannah.
When I was first graduating from college
and stuff, if my boss had been like, I
need to speak to you. I would be like, I
will hurl myself into the river like, oh
my god. You're like, oh, I really wish
that we could speak, but unfortunately,
I just started puking aggressively and
need to leave. Maybe we can catch up at
a future date and time if you happen to
remember, but I'm hoping you won't.
Right. Unfortunately, I died last week,
so I won't be able to make that meeting.
Unfortunat
fortunately, I am deceased.
So,
but we've grown. We've grown. It's not
that bad anymore
cuz you're my body.
I just realized
I am technically your boss.
Oh my god, I'm
which was
when we met years ago. Not a dynamic I
saw happening. Um but it is where where
we're at and I am
Oh, you are technically my subordinate.
Yeah, but I don't receive text messages
from you and assume that I'm being fired
before I read them.
Also, I don't text employees.
You don't?
No. If I text you, it's normally like,
"This man just put guacamole on her
cuckoo.
The [ __ ] are we reading?"
Um, and I think sending that text
immediately followed with, "Do you have
a few minutes to connect?" would be
giving mixed messages.
It would. Yeah, that's a fair point. We
do keep it pretty pretty siloed
to the point that even my superior has
noted that
we're really good at it.
We are very we're totes profession. Yes.
So Abby goes back to Belinda after this
orientation and is like, "Hey, what
happened with that reassignment?" And
Belinda was like, "Yeah, we're short
staffed in housekeeping." So,
she's like, "What reassignment? You're a
housekeeper. Thank you."
Yeah. Like, that's where we need you.
That is where you shall be. Um, as Abby
is like having this conversation with
Belinda and it's not going as she hoped
it would. Henry happens to walk up and
he's like, "What's going on?" And she's
like, "Oh, like this is the situation."
And he's like, "Okay, well, uh, he's
like, "We'll get it sorted out. We'll
get you back to the position you were
hired for. Be downstairs at 7:00 a.m.
tomorrow."
All right.
Right. You're like, "Okay." Um, so that
night overnight, Abby wakes up.
Apparently, she has some insomnia and
typically wakes up at like
3:00 a.m.ish.
We get it.
We really do.
Yeah.
Um, and two of her roommates are going
down on each other and she's like, "I've
never seen women do this. I've never
really seen anyone do this." And so
she's just curious and watching um from
her bunk. Like
they kind of have privacy curtains that
you can close around the bunks.
Sure.
And they the the privacy curtains like
had a crack in them. Like they weren't
so she like can see a little in but
she's like
I mean they know they're in a room of
all of us. So like
this is
we can both see and hear you.
Yes. Um, and then once they go to sleep,
she's like, "Maybe I like I'm feeling a
little tingle down there." Sort of
energy. I didn't like that word. I
didn't like how I said that. I'm just
going to be completely honest there. Um,
but
you're not a tingle.
You're not a tingle.
Janice Dickinson's
autobiography. She kept talking about
how her flower would tingle.
Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. And I was like, Janice,
no need for all that plastic surgery, my
dear. It didn't have to be this way.
Wonder how she's doing now. Cuz that was
I think I read that in high school.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cuz that was back when like America's
Next Top Model was still Oh,
you know, back when they'd be like,
"We're going to cut off all of your hair
and put a gap in your teeth and you
should be grateful for it cuz it's going
to help your modeling career." Are you
going to be on board or are you going to
be a little [ __ ] about it?
We'll send your ass home if you won't
let us put a gap in your teeth
and or fix a gap in your teeth depending
on the season.
Right.
Oh god. Golden age of television right
there. Reality television.
We know you've grown your hair out your
entire life for religious reasons. and
if you don't let us give you a pixie cut
and diet platinum, you'll never have
success. And we were all like, Tyra is
right. They got to do what they got to
do.
You got to roll with the industry. You
know,
I think as an adult, like thinking about
like the bodily autonomy and consent
piece of it, it's a really gnarly
conversation.
Big yikes on a lot of fronts.
Yeah.
Yes. Yeah.
Um I know last episode we were talking
about like kind of like micro stems that
have like picked up. Um we were rooting
for you. We were all rooting for you.
Big one in our house.
Tell you I told you about in the last
episode I told you about the book I was
reading where the guy was like I learned
it all from porn. My first reaction was
I was rooting for you.
I wanted to like this book so bad. God
damn it.
Yeah,
you didn't. You didn't learn at all from
porn.
No, you didn't. And if you did, I don't
want to know what you know,
right?
I don't want to share that knowledge.
Um, so after Aby's roommates go to bed,
she
is still feeling a little tingly down
there,
flicking the bean.
Yeah. So, which is like a new kind of
not something she's done consistently,
very seldom if ever before. Um, and also
is thinking of her boss Henry at the
time, which is like a weird thing for
her cuz she's like, "Oh god, am I doing
this to the thought of my boss?"
You are. You are. Yeah.
I've never done that to the thought of
my boss.
Any of them. Nor I. Nor I. Really,
Hannah? Not even me.
Was Matt ever your boss? Y'all work
together?
No,
just different departments.
We've always been in different
departments.
Just saying. Got some questions.
The next morning, uh, Abby is waiting at
7:00 a.m. She is ready to go. But also,
when she was like grabbing her coffee on
the way out, she's like, none of the
outdoors crew is like moving with a
swiftness. Like, what the hell is
happening?
Right. Right.
She's like, because I thought I was
going to the outdoor crew. So, she's in
the lobby and like the outdoor crew
doesn't show up. No one's really there.
And then a truck pulls up and Henry's
driving it. And he's like, "We're going
to go chop wood." And she's like, "Uh,
okay." Like, "Are you also on the
grounds crew?"
Right. And he's like, "No." He's like,
"It's a" Well, and she says at one
point, she's like, "I assumed you'd have
your wood delivered for like your
firewood delivered.
I'm 12 years old. I'm so And that's my
poor wording, not even theirs."
Sorry.
Oh my god.
Well, and she's like, "I just assumed
you'd have all of your firewood
delivered." And he's like, "Why? Because
I'm rich." And she's like, "No, because
it's a big hotel." But then also she in
her head she's like,
"And because you're rich." Yeah. Like
just kind of And he's like, "Well, it's
a great stress relief and just like if
anyone asks, we were gathering wood. You
weren't like just is a little bit like
we don't need to tell everyone the full
details of this excursion, but we are on
this excursion together."
So, they're driving into the woods and
having a light conversation. He asks how
things are going. She tells him it's
been great. He asks about the living
quarters cuz he's like, "I thought they
were a little tight. like they told me
like they reassured me like it'd be fine
with how we did scheduling and she's
like no it is fine but and he's like
well like what's what's the butt and
she's like some of them more being a
little like intimate like I don't like
not intentionally like it didn't seem
like a telling on them
right not tattly kind of energy but like
a yeah I mean there's not enough privacy
for
I don't know if she was that
solutionsoriented
um Yes. It wasn't a we need to add more
privacy. It was a oh, you know, like I
like
my my roommate. And he was like, "So,
you saw your roommates fucking?" And he
she's like, "Yeah." It's like, "Oh, did
you like it?"
Right. Like it's
Did that scare you
and did that not scare you?
Did you want it to?
Did that scare you more?
Can you show me on this doll where you
feel the tingle?
It's in the flower.
It's in the I'm sorry.
No, I'm just imagining a baby doll with
a flower on it now.
So,
as they're out in the forest, he's
chopping wood. She's carrying it back to
the truck. Um, there's definitely like a
really like closeup. He's like, "I'm
gonna like teach you how to swing the
axe. I need to be immediately behind you
and touching you to teach you how to
chop chop wood."
Um, but also she's like, "Oh, like this
is hard work." And he's like, "Yeah,
also what do you think my outdoors crew
does?" He's like, "It's more than just
like landscaping. Like they are doing
this.
I don't know if you are equipped to do
this job. Um, and because she does like
I forget what she says, but at one point
she kind of like makes a comment about
her references or experience or
something
and he's like, "No, we we checked all
the references." She's like, "Oh, you
you did." And he's like, "Yeah." She's
like,
she's like, "How the hell wasn't I
passed over?"
Why did you hire me then?
Well, and in that conversation with
Henry, he tells her that she was passed
over for lack of experience. and he
reviewed all of the videos and
thought she needed it.
He's like it was very compelling.
You had the perkiest tits.
Those dough eyes. And oh my god, I will
say the number of times she's like, it's
so hard being me. My boobs grew two cup
sizes when I was in high school. Over
the summer, people started a rumor that
I got a boob job, but I couldn't help
it. Oh, I just have such ample breast.
It's like the energy of it. I'm like,
are you [ __ ] kidding me?
Oh no, my boobs are too perky for my
frame.
No one will ever want me with breasts as
large as mine.
Who would want me with these inevitable
back issues?
Right.
Who could possibly find perky double D's
attractive?
I'll die an old maid with back problems.
Like
if it it doesn't matter if it's a boob,
they're excited. Very much so. Yeah.
Like I It's not even sexual at that
point.
No, they No. No.
Wherever you were about to take that, I
saw you walk it back.
Like I saw it in your eyes, Rick. Oh,
nope. Not Not that sentence.
No.
Um,
she does. He like he's like says that
her video was compelling and he then
they don't really have a larger
conversation about it at that time
because it's midax lesson,
right? But it's kind of understood that
he knows that she's kind of full of [ __ ]
and approved her anyway.
Yes. Like he knew she did not have the
full experience that they were looking
for,
right?
And still decided to hire her. Um, and
as so like they're working for a while
and like get into a good rhythm with it
and then suddenly like Henry kind of
freezes and he's like, "Abby, I need you
to get in the truck and she like hears
it in his voice." So she like doesn't
question it. Immediately like moves to
the truck. He gets in as well. They
close the doors and a grizzly bear is
wandering out
and she's like, "It's brown lay down."
Right. Yeah. Per our last episode, if
it's black attack, if it's brown, lay
down.
Yeah. So, they're in the car.
They are. And they're watching the bear
kind of meander around where they've
been.
Sure.
And Abby like makes eye contact with the
bear and she's like, "I don't think
you're supposed to do this, but I'm too
mesmerized and terrified to like look
away." So, like she's like making eye
contact with the grizzly and it like
charges the truck.
Sure.
So, she's terrified. Scrambles like into
Henry's lap because they had been
working for so long when they had still
been out of the truck. She'd like taken
off a couple layers
and so she's like, "Oh no, I think
there's turkey jerky in my vest pocket."
And then Henry's like, "Turkey?" Like
not even beef. Like he like seems to
have a problem with
If you're going to have jerky, have
beef, [ __ ] What?
I like that that's his problem in this
moment. And he's like, "Your jerky
preferences are questionable."
But uh the bear grabs her vest and like
her sweatshirt and like is trying to
like figure out the jerky. And it is
kind of a funny moment because her and
Henry are sitting in the car and she's
looking at the grizzly branch like it
must be so hard with those big paws to
open the jerky.
Oh honey.
Yeah. And Henry's like so as soon as I
start the engine he's going to run off.
So we're just going to do that.
We're going to drive back. We're done
with cutting wood for the day.
We've been out here long enough. Thank
you.
Yes. Um
but as that's happening
the before they drive off, she's in his
lap still because she was scared from
the grizzly bear.
Sure.
Yes. And uh
she
starts to feel his boner a little bit
underneath her and is like a oh wow
chopping wood.
Yes. I don't I think she's too new to
the scene to even be able to make a pun.
Yeah. We can't we can't make
my real issue with the book.
Yeah.
She there was so much room for more puns
that weren't taken because of her
insecurity.
Yeah.
Just missing out. Really? If
I had a nickel for every time
my insecurity lost me out on a pun.
I'd actually probably have a couple over
the years, you know?
Yeah. Just like like a like a quarter.
Yeah. I'm probably still going to say
the pun anyway because the pun is worth
the embarrassment.
your face. This is where we're
different.
That was good.
Listen, you know me. If it
that was really
If it's for a joke, I'll probably do it
at some level, even if it comes back to
bite me in the ass. Did I ever tell you
the story
of the time we were testing mattresses
at Sam's Club?
No.
But I want to know more cuz that's a
hell of a setup. So I was at and mind
you, I was an adult. I could legally
drink at this point. I might have owned
my own house. This was like I had a
master's degree. This I was not a child.
An adult,
unfortunately. Yes. Because
so the Sam's Club in Hendersonville,
Tennessee that we were in had all of uh
the mattresses like lined up vertically,
but then there was one that was out just
leaning against them. So this was not
like a mattress showroom.
You were not choosing the most
comfortable one. But my mom is shopping
for whatever she's shopping for, right?
And I look at my dad, I'm like, "How can
you tell if the mattress is soft?" And
he goes, "I don't know how." And so I
thought it would be funny. I drop my
purse on the ground and I just take off
running full speed and like full like
splat myself on this mattress. You belly
flop on it. I belly flop on this
vertical mattress. Hilarious. 10 out of
10. No notes. Comedic gold. So about 10
minutes after that. Uh we're at the next
section and there's still more
mattresses lined up. None are like
laying vertic like laying with a flat
surface for you to splat on. Um, and
they're all lining up vertically. And my
dad goes, "Chelsea, how can you tell if
those are
soft?" So, I'm like, "Fuck it. I'm here
for the joke." So, I drop my purse and I
take a off running at this full wall of
mattresses, like all stacked standing
vertically against each other. Um, they
were box springsings, not mattresses.
They did not have any of the heft and I
You dominoed them.
I luckily I didn't do Oh, okay. Good.
Cuz it was the side. Hannah,
like four mattresses, I hit the side.
They all went back like a foot and
smacked into the wall. I've never seen
my father laugh harder than he did in
that moment. It took me so long to catch
my breath. I was like, I will never
financially recover from this moment.
And yeah, like even like in the last
couple years, my dad has been like, how
can tell if the mattress is soft? I'm
like, shut up. [ __ ] off, man.
It was one time.
One time is too many times, Chelsea.
Really?
Oh, that's so good.
The physical comedy of it did not work
in my favor in that situation, but here
we are.
So, as she's sitting in Henry's lap, um
he asks if she told anyone about that
like first night and she's like, "No,
like I was really embarrassed." Yeah.
And he's like, "About what?" And she's
like, "Well, like I said all kinds of
kind of like stupid crazy things about
my ex- fiance and other things." And
he's like, "Other things like asking me
to [ __ ] you."
She's like,
"Good." Right. Yes.
Maybe. Yeah. Maybe, maybe that one
that was on the list now that you
mention it.
And then there's like they're like
obviously she's in his lap. They're very
close. Intense eye contact during this
and like she's like feeling his boner
and she's like I don't know what to do
with this situation. Like this is my
boss. We're cutting wood. There was a
pair. This is not a work question, but
he is still my boss. So like
So is it a work question?
She just goes, "This feels like a test.
And he's like, "Maybe it is."
Oh my god.
Right. And you're like, "Oh my gosh."
Also, I'm like, "Hey, Henry, I just need
you to use more direct communication."
Seriously. Yeah.
Like, that's my frustration. She's too
insecure. You're not direct enough.
Yep.
It would solve a lot of issues.
You're playing these weird [ __ ] games
where you're like, "I know, but I won't
tell you." Like, why? Why are you doing
that?
Yes.
Well, and so they drive back and she's
like, "Okay, so like am I on outdoor
crew?" And he's like, "No,
still don't know.
Have fun on housekeeping." But like that
is where you are. And she's like, "I
don't know why you guys want me on
housekeeping." She's like, "I don't know
if I've ever successfully made a bed."
And under his breath, he's like, "Good
to know." But like damn it. Like Aby's
not helping herself keep this job.
Yeah.
Mhm.
So that afternoon she goes to get her
uniform and like figure out her
assignment and she's been assigned as
the liaison for penthouse one. So she's
not like a lowgrade lowlevel
apprentice changing the sheets for the
standard rate rooms.
Yes. She is uh the liaison.
Sure.
For penthouse one. Um, and her roommates
are kind of like, "What the hell?" Like,
"You need years of experience to like
get that position." And it's very clear
she's just a sweet
idiot,
dough-eyed girl who like has no idea
what's happening.
So, when she gets to penthouse one the
next morning to start her day, guess who
lives in penthouse 1, Hannah?
Oh my god. Is it Henry?
It might be. Yeah. Oh my.
So, it's not a typical guest. That's
where Henry stays when he is here.
And he tells her that uh he actually
wants her to be his personal assistant.
That that's kind of been like the end
goal with hiring the whole time.
Um that he's like Yeah. He's like from
the first night and how that went like I
wasn't sure. So that was part of like us
going out
yesterday morning.
Sure. Needed to gauge your work ethic
when you were sober.
Sure.
um but like that that's the position
that he wants to offer her and that
that's what she was really hired for and
she's like I don't okay like sure I'm
here I I can I guess I can do these
things and I forget if it's at this
point but at one point she's kind of
like I don't know if I like have all of
the qualifications to do everything with
this job and he does then like point out
he's like well you organized all of
those events for the church he's like we
called the pastor and asked like I
talked to your aunt at the diner. Like
you were like a very successful server
there. So like he's like no like I I
checked your references and like this is
not beyond you.
Right. Well, it's one of those where
it's like you're not understanding that
those skills generalize to other things.
Yes, those are transferable skills
1,000%.
So, when she is going to agree to take
the position, Belinda shows up to the
penthouse with her new employee
agreement. Um, and then Abby goes to
essentially like at the front door of
each penthouse, there's a side door
that's like where the staff enters and
they have their own little like nook, if
you will, that's like their p like it
has a desk and a spot for them to like
be able to be there on call
if they aren't helping with something.
Mhm.
So, she goes and is kind of in the nook
and is hearing like Belinda and Henry
have this conversation and like Belinda
is just like, "What the hell?" Like,
"Right, are you sure about this?"
Yes. She's here for her job
qualifications and previous experience.
That's what you hired her for,
right? Not that virginal [ __ ]
situation.
Yes. Like, it's like very much like,
"Why did you hire her? Are you guys
[ __ ]
and like Henry.
So, the rumors have already started now.
I don't even know if they've they've
made it that far so much as like Belinda
has worked for Henry for a long time.
Also, at one point like it's alluded to
that like they had a trrist when opening
a hotel in Istanbul,
right?
She's clocking his pattern and she's
questioning it.
Yes. And there's also kind of it's like
alluded to like there have been issues
with previous assistants and employees
and so like things that you're like not
100% sure of but you're like
sure seems shady.
Yes. And in Henry's conversation with
Melinda, he's like I'm not into insecure
little farm girls who need to get over
their ex like whatever it is. But it's
like very much like Aby's like
overhears it and is like, "Well, okay.
I've been sufficiently put in my place.
Maybe
good to know.
Maybe he didn't have a boner." Like not
that, but like just
that like Yeah. Maybe he isn't as kind
as I thought he was or maybe he doesn't
see me as an asset the way that he said
he did or whatever.
A little bit of that for sure.
Um, and so then he takes off because he
is opening a brand new hotel and has
[ __ ] to do. And so she's organizing his
email and doing all of that stuff. And
there's a knock on the door. And when
she opens it, it's actually a delivery
for her. and she had ordered a
replacement vest and a replacement like
sweatshirt like from her college that
like had like the school like logo on it
and even put turkey jerky in the pocket
of the vest and like had it like
delivered
to her. That's very cute.
Yes. So you're like, "Okay, well that
was
mixed signals."
Well, and I think in reading because I
know once again read it years and years
ago, reread it this week and I think
reading it through a different lens. I
had I also had more sympathy for him as
like yeah you are opening a
multi-million dollar property.
Sure. that is part of a larger
organization that has tons of insanely
successful hotels that like your goal is
to take this over from your father.
You approach the world differently than
a naive farm girl
like right. And so I'm like yeah, you
have to be stoic sometimes. like you
you aren't always going to be as warm in
those moments and just those moments
where I'm like, "Yeah, when this is the
world you've grown up in versus
being a small town farm girl world that
you've grown up in, like
I think it gave me a
more fair lens through viewing him as
well. I'm like, you're not a great
communicator
and
we can own that."
Yes. And like no one in this situation
is a great communicator.
Yeah.
And you're like the situations that have
brought you here like you you've had to
be stoic by nature.
And so like someone who's suddenly like
demanding like
vulnerability and warmth from you as
like a
Right.
He's like I I just wanted a hot
assistant.
Right.
Right. Like
I just wanted to see those tits
that are too big for her little body.
Poor thing. How will she ever
too petite
for breasts as ample as this?
For breast as ample.
Such a time as this.
Abby spends all day coordinating her new
position. Um, at one, okay, this is not
really that important, but at one point
in the morning, we find out he's colorb
blind. So she like is helping him like
choose his tie and like will like help
him like pick socks and things like
that.
So then she spends the whole day
organizing his emails and scheduling his
meetings and then at one point tells him
she color coded his calendar
and it's never discussed. Like I'm like
[ __ ] you know he's color blind.
And even if I'm generous in saying it's
just a red green color blind, you chose
red and pink in your calendar reorg
which is a problem for
seems aggressive
girl,
but it's not addressed at all. And I'm
like I'm vastly overthinking this. This
is
But I like it. I get it.
It's It's why we're here.
It's why we're here.
Um,
Henry seems to be impressed with like
how much she's kind of accomplished and
organized, but he is also like, I need
this reservation changed. I need my suit
dry clean. And so, I think he like has
these moments of like warmth with her
and then he's like, also, you are my
personal assistant,
right?
I need you to do these things. And so,
the number of times in this book that
like he's just like telling her to do a
task and she's like, "Oh, no. Does he
hate me now?" Like he didn't like look
at me when he I'm like, "Girl, he just
needs the suit dry cleananed. It's not
that [ __ ] deep,
right?
Like just just do your job. It'll be
fine. It's not that deep.
I know you're trying to get it and so is
he, but that doesn't mean the suit
doesn't still need to be dry cleananed.
That is still what you're getting paid
for,
right? you're not getting paid for the
other stuff that quite frankly you
haven't even realized you want to do all
of yet because you're still working
through this repression you grew up
with,
right?
Um, so as he's like, I need this like
reservation moved up, this, that, and
the other, he like goes to hop in the
shower and she goes to work on those
things. And then as she's finishing up
those requests and is like about to like
shut down for the day, she sees him in
the shower and he's masturbating and she
is a voyer
clearly.
Yeah, cuz she's watching him as well.
And it's like, this is also hot. I
shouldn't be doing this. He is my boss.
I should not be watching my boss
masturbate right now. And yes, Abby,
that is the correct answer. Good
insight.
You should not be watching.
Where's the impulse control?
Not there.
Yeah, the insight.
Great.
Um, the impulse control poor.
Yeah. If we're doing a mental status
exam.
Yeah. For this moment, because generally
insight also poor.
Yes.
But in this moment,
you nailed it, kiddo.
Intact.
Yeah.
Enough.
Um, but as he comes, they make eye
contact and she's like, "Oh, fuck." And
so good.
Yeah. She bolts and just like takes off
and is like, "Well, I guess I'm done for
the day." And like runs,
"Good night."
Yes. Sleep well.
At the dorm that uh that evening, all of
the roommies are kind of like debriefing
their day. She's talking about how she's
now his PA, but there's also like some
element of
I think Tilly is the roommate who also
works in housekeeping
and is like I would kill for that job.
Like
yeah, it's a cushy gig.
Yeah. So, I think there's also like some
of her roommates being like, "What the
[ __ ] Like, you don't have this
experience. You were just hired for what
position?
What is happening here?" Right.
Um, but then they're all also kind of
gossiping about some former employees
and some tea they've heard over over
time working at different wolf hotels in
different cities.
So, Till's telling them about like one
employee once like hit on Henry
and like handcuffed herself to his bed
and he like walked in and like called
security. that when security got there,
she tried to say like he handcuffed her
to the bed. They're like, "Well, that
was clearly quickly dismissed because we
have security footage that shows
otherwise." Right.
Right.
Uh but then they're talking about how
like a former like personal assistant of
his was uh fired for hitting on him and
Aby's just like, "I just watched him
masturbate. I'm going to lose my job so
soon."
She's like, I feel like this is
potentially a step further than just
casually hitting on him.
Yes. Like I didn't handcuff myself to
the bed, but I also didn't just like I
found the middle
unintentionally, but I I found it. Well,
and so like the whole next day as she's
going through work, like she's assuming
she's going to get fired and like
every time like he's like text her,
reaches out, she's like, "This is it.
This is the moment."
Oh god. Yes. And so she he reaches out
and like she gets a text or whatever,
but it's however he communicates to her
where she thinks she's about to get
fired and he's like, "Can you schedule a
massage for this evening?" She's like,
"Oh, yeah, that's no problem at all."
Uhhuh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
Yeah. I'm not fired. Okay, sure.
Do you want me to schedule the massage
and then be fired?
Yes. Very like, she's like, "At no point
am I not getting fired in this journey?"
1,000%.
So, the massage therapist shows up at
Penthouse 1. His name is Michael. He's
getting his table set up. He's also tall
and attractive. It is noted multiple
times in this book, everyone who works
at this hotel is
hot.
Very attractive. Yes.
A certain caliber of aesthetic is
required here. Yes.
So, as he's setting up the chair or his
table, they're kind of talking and he's
also from Pennsylvania and like from a
close nearby small town, like not the
same one as her, but she's like, "Oh,
I'm from this place." She's like, "Oh, I
used to like play basketball against
them every season." Like she maybe I was
at a game. And then she's like, "What
year did you graduate?" And it was like
he's like 28 and she's 21. And she's
like, "Probably wasn't at a game, but
like glad that you know where I'm from."
That's so cool. Right. And she's like
rubbing a sore spot just like on her
shoulder as they're talking. And he's
like, "Oh, are you a little sore?" She
like, "Yeah, like I was like we were
chopping wood yesterday and
tweaked it."
Yeah. Sort of. And he's like, "Oh, like
let me help." So she pops up on the
table, isn't laying down, but Yeah. is
like he's rubbing her back as Henry
comes in and is clearly
not thrilled,
unacceptable
about this. He's like, "What? No, only I
can [ __ ] my assistant.
I should be the only one working out
kinks
with my assistant."
Yeah.
Right. Um
and so when Henry comes in, he's like
immediately like, "Abby, can I speak to
you in the other room?" And she's like,
"Well, this is when I get fired."
I knew it. She's like, "He just wanted
me to work the whole day."
Yes. But and he's like, "I don't want
other people touching you." She's like,
"Why?" And he's like, "They're not good
enough for you." Like, it's just this
like weird,
right?
He's clearly feeling territorial, but
like not putting all of those words to
it.
Yeah.
And the tension is just like building
during their conversation and they're
getting closer and closer together. And
he undresses for the massage because
Michael's outside. So he like went into
the room to undress and like talk to his
assistant. It was kind of like
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Efficiency.
Yes. But then the conversation he's
having with his assistant is like,
"Don't let anyone else touch you."
Right.
Oh, is that my penis? Like truly
like what?
Well, and as they're like standing super
close together and he's now naked
because he's or stripped down at some
level because he's getting stripped down
for this massage. Aby's feeling a little
bold and she's like, "That's certainly a
hard [ __ ] for an insecure little girl."
Abby,
no.
And like Henry like processes like the
Oh, [ __ ] She like overheard that
conversation with Belinda and was like,
"Well, like sometimes I like have to say
things I don't mean."
What? Like what is
just the most weird gaslighty [ __ ]
Like
what?
Don't say anything then.
Yeah. What?
But like denying it to one person to
then be like, "Oh, well like I No, I
didn't mean it. I just like had to say
that.
I just had to say it to Belinda." But
like the truth is
is it or does the truth change depending
on who you're talking to?
Yeah. Well, and then during the massage
he like keeps her there and has her like
debriefing him on the day during the
massage. So she's sitting there as he's
naked on the table getting rubbed down
by Michael and he's asking her like
different questions about the day. But
then also like with that because the all
of the staff is obviously there getting
ready but like the launch is like this
coming weekend and so he's asking about
like who like when are certain people
arriving
and like asking her like the details of
like what do you know about this person
that person just like making sure she's
she's prepared as well. But in that like
one of the people coming is like a super
hot reporter who's sing and he like
who's single and is specifically noted
she's single and he's like all right
well we'll send flowers to our room and
I'll write the note
like the welcome note and Aby's like the
[ __ ] But then there's another person
who's coming who's like a middle-aged
dude and he's like yeah if you could
just like write a note saying good to
see you again. Make sure the handwriting
is not too girly. And she's like, "So
you write personal notes to the hot
people?"
Yeah.
That are single and
Yeah.
So like it is very mixed messages on
Mhm.
how we're navigating all of this.
Uh as the massage is wrapping up and
like actually the massage might still be
going, but she's wrapping up for the
day. Michael asks if like he's like,
"Hey, like when I'm done with this, I'm
off for the day. Like if you'd like want
to hang out at all."
Sure. Let's go get a drink or whatever.
Yeah.
Although like Henry's still on the table
at this point, so Aby's like, "Uh, maybe
another time." Like I'm I'm pretty
tired. Gonna call it a day.
Yeah.
I don't know. It just all feels
unnecessary.
Yeah.
Like this isn't how we had to navigate
this situation,
right? Like let's do this as awkwardly
as possible.
Mhm.
Like there are a hundred other ways this
could have gone that would have been
less weird.
Yes.
So the next day, Abby gets called to a
lunch meeting in the restaurant at the
hotel where like Henry's meeting with
lots of investors that they like been
out doing a tour earlier that day sort
of energy. And her roommate Rachel is
the server who's serving the table who,
as we've said, everyone is super hot,
right? And also more experienced. So I'm
assuming Rachel's doing just fine at her
job. And so when she goes over like all
of the guys are kind of augling her and
Abby sees Henry augling her as well and
like immediately like
is like oh like I feel jealous. I don't
like him looking at someone else like
that. And just
right
kind of acknowledging that it like
evoked unhappy feelings within her.
Sure. Like there are feelings here I
don't fully understand or maybe even
have a right to because he's my boss. He
hasn't made any claim on me or
given me any indication that he's even
into me.
We've had some
tensionfilled moments, but like outside
of that, nothing's really
right
happened. Yeah.
And Henry notices Abby and like sees it
on her face and calls her on it
afterwards and is like, "What were you
upset about?" And is like, but like in a
very public like in like the lobby, like
not like in a private room, like not
that other people are in their
conversation, but he chose to
easily overheard.
Exactly. Um and like kind of rips into
her a little bit and is like, "Please
don't let your your crush get in the way
of your job."
Um,
yeah. Which hard words for Abby to
Yeah. Like a little bit hateful honestly
to do that in front of other people
where it could be over overheard and not
like hey listen I know this is like your
first job postgraduation or whatever
like summer whatever like I know maybe
this is new for you. I've pulled you
into a job that you may not fully
understand.
And that doesn't mean that anything
romantic is going to go on between us.
I'm your boss. Bear that in mind. Well,
but also such mixed messages when I'm
like, "Yeah, the night before you had
your hard dick
like
at one point you had her sitting on your
hardened dick and like
right
kind of kept her there intentionally in
that moment, right?" So, like you are
getting mixed messages, bro.
Yeah, definitely.
Uh he ends up he's in meetings the rest
of the day sort of energy and like sends
her it might just be a text that's like
yeah you can like end early but like
it's like they don't really like see
each other the rest of the day. So she
goes back to the dorm and is like
talking to the roommates and the the
roommates all work in their different
departments and one of them is an
esthetician and is like oh my gosh
girl just let me out your eyebrows for
like 3 seconds like world the difference
right. Yes. So they end up deciding to
like do a little like afternoon makeover
because they are off shift and half the
time. So like they do her eyebrows, they
call like another girl who works in the
salon and have her do like some like a
color. They do another call another girl
for a cut. Um, and it does come out
because they are using like the hotel
salon for all of these services that
they called Henry and like got it
approved and Henry is also covering the
cost for all of it. So, he was like,
"Yeah, no problem." Like, I'll I'll
cover it. It's fine. Um, and then at the
end, the roommate who is the waxer takes
her into one of the hotel rooms so that
she can do her bikini line. Um, but when
she does that, there are three guests
that have like just walked in and are
like in the lobby and like see it
happen. So like they see employees like
go back when they're like waiting and
which obviously is going to like come
up. Right.
Right.
Um the next morning they're having their
like standard like upper cabinet meeting
of employees and just like all talking
about all of the different things and uh
Belinda brings up that a complaint came
in about employees using the spa for
personal needs when clients were waiting
for services
and like Abby like the blood drains from
her face and she like grabs Henry's leg
under the table and he's like okay like
we'll look into it but like doesn't like
make it a bigger thing in that moment.
Uh, also worth noting that right before
that in this conversation, apparently
Rachel, the same roommate server,
had she messed up some order for a guest
and then was like served him like a lot
of free scotch that night to make up for
it and then went to his room after she
was off shift that night and they were
like, "That's against her code of
conduct. She's out." and like
immediately turn around and have this
conversation about like employees using
services
for personal reasons.
So Aby's like, I really am going to get
like wasn't watching him masturbate, but
like something's I'm I'm going to lose
this job,
right?
Um
and so Henry is like clearly not
thrilled and like this wasn't cleared.
And so when they're having a
conversation about it though, like his
whole thing is because he was trying to
figure out what was going on in the room
because he was like, "Well, and how long
were they using it?" And they're like,
"Oh, they were in there for like
whatever it was." Like it was
10 15 minutes or whatever.
Yeah. He's like, "So not enough for
legs. Eyebrows don't take that long.
What was this?" And so then he's getting
super jealous cuz when he talks to Abby
and he's like, "Was this for Michael?"
And she's like, "Who?
What?" Right. Like the massage guy.
Yes.
What?
Like and then he just like leaves for
his next meeting.
Ju Yeah. Like he's not happy with that.
But also
I don't know.
Right.
It's a weird tens tensionfilled scene.
Yeah.
But like the whole book is just weird
tension of different types.
And I think that's why you probably
didn't love it because you just go from
like one weird tense cringy situation to
the next.
It's all cringe for me. And
yeah, there's a lot of cringe.
Oh god.
Because it's it's so much like she's so
naive.
Yes.
And he's so egocentric. He can't see
past his own stuff. And so neither one
of them is fully communicating.
And it's just like a ve like
like I think the thing is clearly they
work through it at some level but I'm
like reading I'm like it could have been
easier.
Yeah. By a lot.
It didn't have to be this.
Yeah.
So all that said, she is cleaning
penthouse one that afternoon.
Mhm.
Henry is on a boat with some investors.
I don't know. Some [ __ ] that he does.
Sure. He's frolicking about. Who knows?
As you do as a billionaire.
Yep. And you know, because her uniform
is too constricting for cleaning
purposes, she's taken off the liaison
pencil skirt
and nylons. And so she's just cleaning
his penthouse in her blouse and
underwear.
Okay.
the deep sigh.
Yep.
And uh Henry, the boat tour ended early
and so he comes home early and she's
like, "I thought you were on a boat."
And he's like one of the guys was sick
or had something. I don't know. But like
they came back early and he decided to
get off the boat and he's
doesn't really matter. I'm here now.
Yes. uh and he's clearly enjoying the
show of being home early and she's like
th this wasn't supposed to happen like
that. Um so they're having a
conversation and he asks again why she
looked upset earlier
and she said that she wanted him or
looked upset yesterday, whatever. I
don't know the timeline. She wanted him
to look at her the way he looked at
Rachel. And he was like,
"I figured Rachel was one of the
roommates that you were watching." And I
thought that was super hot and I was
actually thinking of you watching.
Like
your face, your face right now is
incredible.
Like, okay. All right.
Yeah. So, like that's why I had that
look because I was thinking of you
watching her, not because I
was into that
was thinking of her.
So, I think the other thing that I
struggled with with this book is that
every single one of his behaviors is
like massive red flag. If you know
anything at all, you leave if any one of
these things comes up or I do, right? I
shouldn't speak for others. I would be
like, "Uh, no." Like, "I don't think I'm
gonna be doing that. I think you're full
of shit." Like, pretty transparently
you're full of [ __ ]
But this is the 1 in 10 million. That is
like true. Like like that we're supposed
to believe this red flag is actually
magenta. All right. But here's what
here's what I'm going to say, though.
So, what if he was augling Rachel?
Well, right. But like
I'm like,
you're not together?
I just
Yeah.
It's just
I think the we're not together, but we
each have these weird tensionfilled
things. Like, did you shave that? Like,
did you wax it for Michael? You're like,
wait, what? You're not together,
right?
Did he augo Rachel? Why? It doesn't
matter. You weren't together. And if he
was,
it still might not matter
together. It's like none of no just no
none of it's good.
Also, as
like they're having this conversation,
they've been like getting closer and
it's been escalating. So like when by
the time he's telling her like he
thought it was hot that he was thinking
about Abby watching
like his hand is like between her legs
obviously. Yes. Right. Um, and he ends
up like pulling her back onto the bed
and she's sitting on his lap and they're
like facing the mirror and her legs are
spread on like either side of his
thighs.
He strips her fully down. He fingers
her. There's a lot of dirty talk. But
it's also like, "Have you ever come
before by touching yourself? Were you
thinking of me?" And I'm also like,
"It's been like 4 days."
and she
was with Jed for 6 years.
So I I don't imagine that if she has
been previously touching herself, it's
been about you, my dude.
Conveniently, she did touch herself that
night she watched the roommates and it
was about him. So I guess he gets his
win. But like,
bro, the timeline here. Yes, the hubris.
Hubris.
Uh she comes, he strips off his clothes
and then walks her through his [ __ ]
preferences.
Uh and then says they'll like Henry's
like like she's clear like what what
next? And he's like we're going to rest
before like we don't need to like do
everything immediately but like okay.
Yeah. Yeah. We're appreciate the
enthusiasm.
Yeah. we're moving forward. And like
I did take it to be like a kind thing
where he's like,
"Yeah,
he might be asking her like, "Have you
ever masturbated before?" But he also
seems very aware of you are a virgin.
You do not have this experience. Like
I'm not just trying to like make this
a painful or negative experience for
you.
I'm not just here to get off. Like we
both should be enjoying ourselves and
like, you know, all that good stuff.
Well, and I could be misremembering
this, but at one point when he's
fingering her, it might be in the scene,
he intentionally like uses additional
pressure to break her highmen to make it
less painful for future them as like
kind of a side comment that's thrown out
there.
Interesting.
Yes. Um,
he texts her that night checking in and
he's like, "Hey, like how are you?" And
she's like
confused.
What is happening?
And his response is, "You touched me in
my no square."
Square. My no square. Did you not
There's a song.
Never mind. I'm not I can't do it.
I I'm I might need you to because I like
my my no spot. My no no zone. I think
square is really the part that I'm
getting stuck on.
There's a song that goes stop, don't
touch me there. This is my no square.
I'm not going to sing it.
Is it a song for children or adults?
So, I was told it's for children when I
was like in high school. People were
like, "Oh, in Georgia, like we learned
that song in elementary school." I don't
know if that's true. I don't know if
that's true because
we went to school in Florida. You'd
think we'd have something weirder.
Instead, we just zigzag run. There's an
alligator.
We just learned about how to get away
from an alligator. We did not learn
about the no square. We did not.
So,
I don't know is the answer.
I don't like the the attachment of
square. That's honestly my biggest hold
up with it is is the shape.
Why is it a square? There's nothing
square like happening.
Oh my god.
[Applause]
All right. So, she's confused.
She's a little confused,
as are we all.
The next morning, she gets to the
penthouse. Uh, and he's like wrapping up
one meeting and then has another meeting
scheduled and cancels it.
Um, to go down on her, you know,
and then to take her virginity
subsequently.
Priorities.
Got to warm it up.
You got to warm up that square. You
know,
it's a box, silly. It's a 3D square.
That's your argument
for don't dumb [ __ ] That's
Don't touch me there. That's my no
square. It's a box.
This is a geometry quiz question.
That's the dumbest [ __ ] I've ever said.
I loved it.
Never stop. That was incredible.
Um, my notes say she comes with
penetration and a little stimulation
very easily for her first time,
you know? Right.
I'm like, I
this if it's an overshare, you don't
have to do it. But if you orgasmmed the
first time you had sex,
penetrative sex,
you orgasmed from penetrative sex the
first time you had it, can you let us
know if that's not too much to ask?
Yeah, I don't need the details. I don't
need the logistics.
But but did you
just let us know what happened because I
what? Yeah, cuz I gotta say
I have questions
and depending on your feedback, those
questions might need to be directed to
my doctor, right? Like
I'm I might find out I'm not normal in
this situation,
right? Well, if one of us would be, then
touche. At least we can find a doctor
together to go ask these questions.
Normal sample that we're taking here is
me and you. two person sample and we are
very similar people so we
we can generalize these results pretty
confidently. Thank you.
So after they bone Henry's like did that
clear things up?
No. Still no dude.
Still not quite frankly. No, Henry.
She's still not 100% sure.
Worse now
cuz now she's [ __ ] her boss that
she's already afraid is going to fire
her for anything and everything.
Right.
Right.
And so he kind of leaves this
conversation at, and here's an exact
quote. You'll spend the next four months
getting over your ex and [ __ ] your
boss. I'll spend the next four months
[ __ ] my assistant.
Still no, dude. Does that mean we're
exclusive? Does that mean that there is
a firm expiration date? This is a a an
extended fling?
Yes. Who can say? Who knows? He does. I
would guess
he in his head he has a clear way of how
this is going, but what he's
communicated is like, well, you're a
seasonal employee and we'll have a
seasonal moment.
We'll have a seasonal bang,
but exactly to your point, there's no
conversation about exclusivity, about
if it like is 4 months like the is there
a time limit on this? Like there are
some additional questions there. Um, and
then he also is like reminding her in
this conversation not to take his curt
tone when they're like out in business
settings uh personally, right?
That he's that's him maintaining his
professional
demeanor and mask, but
Right. I have to pretend to have
professional boundaries when other
people are looking. I'll take my pants
off when we are behind closed doors.
Yep.
The next day, Henry has like a threehour
photo shoot. Um, but unfortunately they
did miss the details of the photo shoot
cuz he was going down on her when the
email was sent at 7:00 a.m. So, they are
scrambling to like get everything kind
of ready for that. Um, she's helping him
pick his outfits, which is kind of just
a cute scene.
Sure.
Um, although
it's a cute scene, the scene does end
with her giving him a [ __ ] and him
tearing her clothes off her body so he
can come on her.
Cute.
And once again, this is yet yesterday
she was a virgin
who planned to save herself for
marriage.
Mhm.
In her small town of Pennsylvania.
Mhm.
Right. So like
Mhm.
There's a lot of processing that needs
to be done here.
Yeah. Yeah.
So I will say like Aby's insecurity can
get kind of annoying to read.
Understandable though.
And Yeah. I'm like, if we just had some
clear conversations, it really wouldn't
have to be this way. Um, the photo shoot
goes well. They the photographer wants
to take some photos on uh Henry's boat,
but unfortunately Abby has some
seasickness that they had not prepared
for. So, like she goes to actually like
lay down uh downstairs in the boat. And
as she's laying down, uh she gets a text
from Jed being like, "Hey, how are you?
heard you got a fancy new job.
And she's like, "Yep, making a lot of
money. My boss is super rich." Like just
Banny has a big dick. Like,
right. And then he like sends another
like, "Oh, so like what are you what all
are you doing for him?" Like, and so she
taking his big dick
and minutes for his meetings. Those are
my two tasks.
[ __ ] and tracking the agenda for the
day.
Going to drop that down in my IDs
section.
I just make sure that [ __ ] are part
of the agenda. So really, it's one job.
[Laughter]
He Henry hears her laughing when she
like gets the text and she just like
puts her phone down. She's like, "This
is ridiculous."
Yeah.
And so Henry comes down to check on her
and he responds to the text and is like
a little
territorial and like
little curt.
Yeah. Like I forget exactly what it
says, but it's essentially
like it doesn't it still reads as though
it's from Abby, but like far more like
spicy than Abby would would send, right?
Uh Henry also told her that they had
docked at his grandparents' cabin
because he thought that like that might
help with the motion sickness.
Um which she thought was very sweet. So
the photographers out and like taking
photos of the property and they end up
[ __ ] on the boat. Uh they raw dog it
because they find out she's on birth
control. Well, they don't find out she
knows she's on birth control.
She had known that. Yeah.
Yes. It was more of Henry being like, "A
man, if I'd realized the situation was
going to present itself, I would have
brought a condom." And she's like, "No
need to bring a condom, my dude.
On you, man."
Yes.
I just had really heavy periods. So,
that always kills me in these books when
it's like, "Oh, no. I am on birth
control. I'm a virgin, but I take it to
regulate my cycle. It's like you can
just take it like you don't have to
explain it. But there's always some line
that's like well and he even like he has
a moment where she's like I'm on birth
control and like he kind of pauses and
he's like for your hormones and she's
like yeah
don't worry I was untouched. That was a
true blue highman you felt there. You
broke there with your fingers.
Sorry. I'm so sorry. Your face. Oh my
god. I'm so sorry.
So, after the photo shoot, they're back
at the penthouse and Abby gets a call
from her mom. She's not going to take it
because she's at work, but Henry's like,
"You can take the call. It's really not
that deep."
Um, and her mom, like,
the level of conservative Christian
rural guilt happening here did feel like
it tightened something in my chest a
little bit.
Yeah. uh like just guilting her about
like needing to come home. Does meant
like Jed has that Jezebel here like just
all of these
right
like oh well like if if you're not here
Jed will forget about you and Aby's like
he forgot about me when I was right in
front of him like what
me being physically present didn't
change this situation really.
Yeah. Like let's let's call a spade a
spade here on this one.
Yeah. He's a [ __ ] Well, and then
her mom is like, "Be careful with your
boss. Men like that only want one
thing." Like, just
do they do they only want one thing?
I'm pretty sure they want more than one
thing. I mean, that's on the list,
but there's other stuff.
Silver [ __ ] So, at least two things,
right?
And money. Three things.
Nailed it.
List.
What else do you need? Really? It's
definitely a draining phone call. Um,
and
she is like needing a little bit of
time. Henry has to go to a meeting, but
and she's like, "Okay, like what time do
I need to be here in the morning?" And
he's like, "No, not in the morning.
Like, I want you here when I get back
tonight."
And so she's like, "Oh, okay." Like
that's
kind of late, but okay.
Sexy. Okay. Like if that's more the
energy.
Mhm. So, she falls asleep on the couch
and when she wakes up, he's watching her
like has just like been sitting across
the room and she's like, "Oh, like how
long have you
when how long have you been here? When
did I fall asleep?"
And he's been there for like probably
like about an hour and it's clear he's
like wrestling with himself and like
feeling conflicted at some level,
right?
And he's like, "I don't want to like
taint you." And she,
"Bro, you already [ __ ] her." Well, and
she says she's like, "Maybe I want to be
tainted."
And is like giving him the opportunity.
Sure.
And he's clearly wrestling with the
decisions he's about to make, but like
she's clearly
on board.
Yeah.
Right.
So, he tells her to strip, tells her to
finger herself, and like so he can
watch, which like she's never done
before. It's like that's a large thing
in itself. He licks her. He [ __ ] her.
Like they have this whole thing and then
like
I did have it noted logistically. I had
a few questions about their setup there.
I was like, "Where's you said she was on
his shoulders. How
Oh, maybe I just figured that out." No,
I didn't. I still have questions. That's
okay. Um,
my notes say
they have very acrobatic sex.
Logistically, I have a few questions
here.
subtag. Likely user error.
I was like, I'm not going to blame Nina
West for this. No, this is user the
credit she deserves. Yeah.
But as soon as they're done, he like
immediately pulls out and is like, I'll
walk you back to your dorm sort of
energy. Like there's no affection,
there's no cuddling, no warmth. Yes. No
afterare. Just like very clearly,
right?
There's like a hard line there. like a I
called you an Uber like
a little bit.
Yeah. Like that's the energy.
Yeah. Like walks her back and then is
like I'll see you at 7:00 a.m. and she's
like okay.
Um so in the morning when she gets there
he's a bit distant.
Mhm.
Uh but also it's like now like the
weekend that like the hotel is like
about to launch. So like things are
ramping up and so he's saying his
family's getting there like his dad is
getting there that day. His brother's
getting there that day. the news are and
like reporters are coming for the launch
and that things will be different the
next few days and Henry asks like I can
trust you to be discreet right what we
had have will stay between us and so
she's like that
I noticed the grammatical change there
of past tense to present
little Freudian slip there yeah what you
doing
but she's like I know he's stressed like
she's like trying to be understanding
thing of all of it that she's like,
"Yeah, no, like I understand like it's
discreet this, that, and the other." Um,
he heads out and she starts sorting his
email for the day. And as she's sorting
through his inbox, there's an email that
like subject line confidential, which
she doesn't normally, she doesn't click
those, those are for him. Um but when
she goes to sort it, she accidentally
opened it instead and sees that it is
from a lawyer um
about the lawsuit happening with his
former assistant.
The handcuff one.
No, I don't think the handcuff one was
an assistant. Okay.
Uh this is the other one though that had
been like
hitting on him.
Yes. Reportedly Kira.
Um
allegedly. Well, and so what the email
reads is that Kira is turning down the
settlement and bringing criminal charges
for forced sexual intercourse.
And so Abby sitting there horrified, not
sure where to go and not sure who the
[ __ ] she's sleeping with and is like,
"What am I? Who is this? What am I
doing? What is happening here?"
And that's where the book ends.
Which I'll also say, I think I read all
four in one fell swoop.
Yeah. Pretty rapidly back to back, I
think. Yes. And so I didn't really like
remember where this one ended. I was
like, "Oh, honestly, there was a lot
more that I thought happened in the
first book than happened."
I was going to say I I remember a lot of
the other big plot points and I thought
like one or two of those was in the
first one. So,
no,
it feels like the first one was almost
like an extended prologue
really setting up. Yeah. knowing what's
to come in the rest of the series,
but also there are definitely some
cringy moments.
I'm like, I need her to be more secure
in herself.
Mhm.
I need Henry to be a better
communicator.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, all things considered, well, okay.
So, I will say this as well. I think
that if
if this was a college romance, right,
and she entered with this level of
like naivity or ignorance or whatever, I
might have been like approached it a
little bit differently. But like I think
the power dynamic between the two of
them being so imbalanced,
it's so imbalanced and she's part of
what was so painful, right? Is like
okay, so he's saying he has good
intentions, but like you better hope
that's true, sweetheart. Like you really
Yes.
Like holy [ __ ] Like
he's not a person you want to come want
to be coming of age with, you know?
Yes. And so I do think rereading like
looking at rereading it through the lens
of like it being a coming of age story
for her did help make it less
sure
cringey. But also on the flip side, he's
not the coming of age person.
No. No.
No. And I think that is a hard balance
to reconcile,
right? Cuz I'll say reading it this
time, I definitely like still felt the
cringe in so many moments, but I
trying to have more empathy for them as
characters was
also beneficial and being like, "Oh,
okay." Like,
I can see it.
Let's look at like, as you even kind of
said earlier, you're like, "Who was I as
a 21-year-old figuring all of this out?"
Right.
Right.
So yeah, I definitely thought more
happened in this one, but all things
considered,
it really is just like setting up the
next
the big stuff.
Several books. Yeah.
Yeah. So, what is the rating system for
this?
Glasses, docks,
massagees, blouses,
Michaels,
boats, fairies,
right? Like I don't actually have a
great
There isn't one
rating system here.
Brown bears. Grizzly bears.
Grizzly bears.
Grizzly bears.
Grizzly bears. Great.
Found it.
We did.
Um
I'm going to go like 10 grizzly bears.
Sure.
I was debating if I was going to go for
like a 100 grizzly bears and then I was
like, why?
So many grizzly bears.
No one needs that many grizzly bears.
No. Um, out of 10 grizzly bears, if I'm
just rating this book and not the whole
series.
Uhhuh.
I don't know. Probably like a a fiveish.
Four or five.
Okay. I was thinking four, but five
feels fair.
Yeah.
Yeah. Five feels fair.
Yeah. Like I I think it's
there the there are cringy moments that
very much hurt to read. Like reading the
scene where she's drunk at the beginning
where you're like, "This is clearly her
boss." Like you see where it's going is
so painful.
Um
if it were less cringe, I might be able
to rate it higher, but like I'm like,
"This is almost not enjoyable at
moments. I'm like I need to walk away. I
have secondhand embarrassment right
now."
Yeah.
Like out of too much.
Uh
so yeah, I feel like four or five to set
up the rest of the series. I would be
curious. Let us know if y'all want more
of this series. Um because I know a lot
of people really love it.
I know a lot of people
have mixed feelings about it, but it
definitely evokes emotions regardless,
right? It does.
Um so if if you want us to hop into the
rest of the series, holl at your girls.
Yeah. Let us know. I also just realized
I think part of it may also be that the
first time I read this I was in my very
late 20s
if not 30s already and being in my 30s
now I'm like oh honey like I just want
to help you like
yes
oh god like as a woman with maybe more
experience than you currently have. I
just so badly want to be like oh honey
let me help you. Let me let me take care
of this for you.
Please back away.
Right. Like I have a group of friends
that we often do what we call front
porch Fridays where we just get together
and have wine on somebody's front porch
and like rap and hang out. And one of
our front porch Friday friends brought
her daughter who was dating a jazz
guitarist and considering not taking a
job, her dream job to move to Korea so
that she could stay with this guy. And
we had like a full intervention with
this this child about like, "Sweetie,
no. No, not a jazz guitarist. Oh, [ __ ]
me. No, no. Say that.
We are very talented jazz guitarists.
We're not taking that away from anyone
at all. We aren't. And if you're new
into a relationship, you should not let
go of your dream job for someone.
For a 22year-old guitarist that looks
like he's 4 days past when he should
have washed his hair in every picture.
No, his brain's not fully developed. You
You can't turn down your dream job for
someone whose brain isn't developed yet.
So, moral of the story, I am driving my
friend to the airport this week to go to
Korea to visit her daughter. And I'm
like,
Abby needs a front porch Friday. She
needs an intervention with like older
women who have more experience to be
like, no.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
All right. Four and a half grizzly
bears. Don't ask what half. Not going to
tell you.
Let us know if you'd like us to continue
the series. Can't wait to see y'all next
time. Bye, smut [ __ ] Bye, smart
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