EP 71: Seeing Double by Lacie Chanel
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your hosts Chelsea and
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Hannah hey everybody and welcome to SM
club I'm Hannah and I'm Chelsea and this
is the podcast where we are two licensed
mental health therapist who sometimes
daydrink sometimes don't today is
definitely a day drinking day yep um
while we review romance novels of
varying caliber nailed it yeah look at
us really good that has kind of become
our unintentional elevator pitch but
like it works it does work I'm like okay
if someone has a better way to describe
what we're doing
here let us know we're happy to update
the pitch sure yeah um okay but before
we actually get into today's book we
have our first ever Corrections Corner
correction Corrections Club because
we're smart Club is it sure we're we're
making this up on the Fly Cor
subcommittee
or sub Club but that feels that sounds
either like BSM issue or like a Publix
sub sandwich Enthusiast
honestly it we are from Florida and we
are and Pub Subs is part of the culture
to be clear and like it was an integral
part of my childhood yeah we could call
it the sub Club Pub Club but I don't
think anyone will know that we're here
to do correction
probably not um and for the record I
recognize there are a lot of things that
we probably need to correct and words
that we have mispronounced and things of
that capacity this one however is
specific to a book that we reviewed back
um in either June or July I think called
not so lucky by
trilina uh so trilina the queen that she
is we love trilina trilina listen to the
episode and then let me know much like
the whole historic Weasley twin debacle
that I you'll just have to listen to
former episodes uh I may have been
reading a little too quickly and missed
a couple of words because there was a
sex scene in not so lucky where I
thought the there were like three males
and one female and I thought that they
were holding her legs and she was like
doing like essentially like a k [ __ ]
situation um and trilina was like y'all
that's not what happened her feet were
on the ground she was lifted to her feet
not by her
feet so my bad on that one and shout out
to Trina for giving us that Insight yes
um cuz we spent a while on that in the
episode I feel like because we were both
so
concerned like Amazed by the arm
strength and sitting there like wow they
spent a while on this that Chelsea just
like legit
misread so that was the uh first
official sub Club Pub
sub yep sure the thing is the next time
we have an official Corrections corner
I'm probably not going to remember that
we tried naming it we're going to name
it something else we're just going to
it's going to be much like our our uh
rating system it's going to be different
every time like we should just own that
but if you have suggestions for what we
should call the corrections committee uh
holl at your girls because clearly the
options that we've come up with today
leave some to be desired sure sure we
could do better
um but I would like to leave Corrections
corner for real Corrections like that
and not Corrections where it's just like
hey Chelsea you keep
mispronouncing these words cuz that's
really just me trying my best with a
decent amount of alcohol sure sure um
but I do get it and you know feel free
to correct me if you need to I walk it
back noted and understood well I was
just thinking if there's something I'm
like consistently mispronouncing sure
like yeah let me know like on uh I
remember on my favorite murder they kept
saying Appalachia oh yeah yeah and
people were like
respectfully Appalachia yeah if you keep
saying Appalachia I'm going throw an
Pacha I need you to stop right that's
good uh so if there's something like
that yes please please let me know if
it's like when I said everybody gets a
blow job I don't think that needs to be
in the corrections
corner you know share whatever
Corrections you feel you would like to
and then maybe the subcommittee can
determine the pub subc commmittee yeah
my God I wonder if we can door Dash Pub
Subs anyway probably there are like two
Publix is less than 10 minutes from my
house that is for after the show that is
the postrecording
reward for today I like that the actual
book that we are reviewing today is
called seeing double okay it's
by clear we're starting off Lacy Chanel
or Lacy shant well
it's like even like the like about the
author has both listed and Lacy is
spelled
differently interesting yeah so we we
made some choices there but yeah Lacy
chenel Lacy Chanel and when it's Chanel
and not Shantel or whatever it was
because maybe I'm wrong on that as well
Lacy spelled l a c i e okay and then in
Lacy Shantel it's spelled l a y okay yes
so h we made some choices um we open
with Kenny Kenny is an 18-year-old girl
um she's getting ready to go to a party
with her boyfriend Jonas Jonah something
he's really not relevant to anything
that happens in this book um he's just a
really useful plot tool at at the
beginning of the story and is he a tool
he is a a bit of a tool yes so Kenny's
uh her dad died in a like school
shooting like two years ago her mom is
now remarried and married a man with
money in a way that like Kenny is not
used to having money and she's like I'm
used to like fishing trips with my dad
and like this is a far bougier lifestyle
than I grew up with and she has a
stepbrother as well his name is
Crest okay
Crest Crest okay I don't know I'm having
a difficult time with Crest and I don't
know if it's because of the way that you
chose to pronounce it or the the name
itself you like hey Chelsea my issue is
actually not with the content at all
it's a it's just with how you pronounced
his name you just did it with so much
intention Crest I kind okay can you say
Crest without intention because I feel
like every part of it is a very
crisp crisp crest
I feel like that should be part of a
vocal warmup somewhere crisp Crest
Timothy
shalam you're uh making me think of like
being in Middle School choir oh yeah
yeah yeah yeah but also sometimes when I
think about Middle School qu like
whenever I think of my middle school
like Arts
teachers they were always very reactive
people they're different they're
different like I my like middle school
art teacher I remember we pissed her off
so much when class she like locked
herself in her Supply closet and I was
like even as like a middle schooler I
think I was in eighth grade I like you
just left a room of 13 year olds
unattended because someone hurt your
feelings but like we're using Sharp
Tools and like it's not watercolor Day
[ __ ] get back out here process that
later my God yeah and I remember my like
choir teacher it seemed like she'd be
like I'm having a bad arthritis day and
just put on like a Red Hot Chili Peppers
documentary sort of energy mine put on
Sister Act One Time which was probably
our best class to be honest
1,000% did she not do Sister Act to that
one actually has all of the students no
she did Sister Act Two yeah no you're
right well I was going to say Sister Act
One feels like a slightly more
daring actually I like they I like they
both have choirs so I see how we get
there but at the same time I do feel
like if you're showing one in school
Sister Act 2 is prob yeah the the
slightly
safer option okay so
anyway
yeah like a
toothpaste Crest I got it I'm on board
now well with how much I pronounced it I
think we know that it's spelled like the
toothpaste
uh-huh so uh Kenny goes to this party
with her boyfriend and as she's like
making a drink she sees like Crest walk
in the kitchen and she's like why is he
at this party he wasn't really invited
she goes to like join up with her
boyfriend and she sees him like buying
Coke and like snorting it at the table
and she's like you
know I'm not really about that
and so she decides to bounce and call an
Uber and like the boyfriend Falls her
outside and he's like no one leaves
Jonas behind like sort of like G yeah I
will say a lot of the dialogue in this
book feels a little one-dimensional in
that way where it's like this is what
someone would say in this situation
right and you're like would they Jonas
feels like he's modeled after like the
main villain in a 80s movie like nobody
leaves Jonas behind yes like okay yeah
and you're like okay Jonas go back to
doing your Coke I'm just going to leave
now and so she does she like takes an
Uber home but when she gets back to the
house she sees that uh like crest's
bedroom door is normally locked and it's
cracked open and she's like you know
I've like never seen in his room and
he's at the party and I like want to I'm
curious and I want to see space so she
decides to Snoop and goes into his room
and like sees a lot of tech gear in a
way that she's like what this is this is
more than just a normal bedroom and she
like clicks on the one of the screens
and suddenly like Crest is looking back
at her uh but he's wearing different
clothes than he was wearing at the party
and she's like what sort of tech is this
right uh and like it it clicks back off
and she kind of keeps looking around and
snooping she also knows she shouldn't be
there and is like getting really
flustered uh
there she's like gets a little
disoriented and she's like I taste blood
in my mouth oh no it happened again like
it I told my mom it hadn't happened in a
while and you're like what is happening
I don't really know we like lost time
she's a bit of a poor historian she's
also 18 and this book very much reads
like you have an 18-year-old heroine
like not all synapses are firing as one
would hope right um which we will wrap
into a chronic medical condition later
oh okay but also so we're planting the
seeds that like there's more going on
1,000% when she's trying to leave she
goes like through another door and it's
because she's apparently disort I'm like
how many [ __ ] doors does he have in
his bedroom it really can't be that many
for you to be lost right but she goes
into like a second tech
room and it's like there's a room and
something that looks like a microwave in
the center and then like something dings
in the room she opens it and it fills
with like I don't just very over-the-top
dramatic but she picks up what she
thinks is a silver pen and she's like
what's this yeah why is this pen so
important and she like tries to write
with it and like she's like he made a
pen and it's a shitty pen at that it
doesn't even work but then the pin
starts moving and like slithering up her
body and she like can't get it off of
her and she's like starting to freak out
it like it like goes under the sleeve of
her dress um do you remember the mummy
of of course yeah the Cinematic
Masterpiece of 1999 Brandon Frasier and
rer wise and all their Glory I know why
Weiss I think okay yeah um did you know
that their son in the sequel was
actually uh in the running to play Harry
Potter and he turned out like he dropped
out because he was so obsessed with the
mummy and apparently knew so much trivia
that they would like ask him to make
sure that like there was continuity of
the story line right yeah I always found
that to be a very endearing but yeah the
Cinematic Masterpiece well you remember
like when the bugs go under the SK like
that's what I'm like imagining here and
so Crest comes in and like sees what's
happening and he's back in the clothes
that he was wearing at the party uh that
she was at and he comes over to help and
like pulls her hair back when he like
sees where it is and he's like [ __ ] and
right as he's like oh no she experiences
excruciating pain and passes out sure as
one does yeah right yeah if I had a
nickel for every time I went to a party
and that's how it
ended with some guy pulling your hair
and you passing
out yes
some and as the mystery Tech implanted
itself within my person oh that part not
the other part I got you okay yeah the
number of nickels I have very depending
on what part we're depending on context
if it's the tech
part so many nickel I was going to say
no nickel and you're like at least 20
nickel
yeah all the
Nick you know okay so when Kenny comes
to
she like is having a little bit of like
double vision and it almost seems like
there's like an overlay and she's like
what is happening and she sees Crest
again but it's like Crest dressed up in
the fancy clothes and she's like but you
were just wearing the normal clothes
when you came in here and so we we learn
as Crest explains her here in this
moment that she accidentally inserted
inserted herself with a they call this
Tech the stinger and so the
Stinger attached itself to her like
brain stem and spinal cord and it allows
you to share all five senses with
someone who also has the
Stinger in them so Crest has a secret
twin
brother named Trotter I was just really
trying to over pronounce it his name is
Trotter Crest and
Trotter and at one point she asks if
those are their like code names and and
Crest says yes and then like at the very
end of the book she's like wait what are
your real names he's like oh I was just
being sassy so apparently their names
are Crest and TR there's no shade name
your children what you want
sure well I'm just thinking
about I'm like okay it's a real missed
opportunity for
Trotter because in the gay community you
have otter and all I can think about is
if he were Trotter the otter he would
clean up
you would be like well known I think you
could write that book I could write that
book not well so I won't well but I
think we've recorded enough episodes to
know someone else will write it not well
so we may as well get your version
too that's an excellent point
yeah also I'll file that away you can't
get better at the craft if you don't
practice it a thank you that's so
inspiring I watch a lot of Boss baby
excellent there's a scene in Boss baby
where like the brothers are like riding
the their bike and the baby who's the
boss sure Alec Baldwin is like trying to
give him
directions but like not real directions
he's just saying like work inspirational
quotes so like that you find on a poster
yeah where it's like aim for failure and
you and you'll always succeed and
they're like what and he's like aim away
from failure and he's like that's not
actual
directions I need a left or right yes
left or right also I'm a child riding a
bike maybe I need other instructions as
a whole here yeah so we learned that
Trotter has the other device and so
Trotter is
undercover uh he's a secret agent
they're all secret agents obviously
Crest is like The Tech Guy secret agent
and then Trotter his twin his secret
twin brother is the one who does the
field work
okay um so Trotter and Kenny can now
like share all five
senses and like link into each other H
yeah so it's not like all the time it
has to be intentional they're
intentionally sharing yeah but she like
doesn't know how to control it yet right
um so Trotter can like click in and like
click off but Kenny's a little bit more
like Trot you here
you there God it's me Margaret yes and
I'm like just shouting for him I don't
think is is the secret to she I mean she
figures it out throughout the book but
yeah that that's where we start for
sure um their dad is Oscar obviously
that's the uh Kenny's stepdad okay and
he's also involved in all of this which
you think he has to be because like you
you got to know you have twins right I
was going to say like you would know
that your other kid is not there and
hasn't been for two years yes right well
I don't know if it's they've been
together a whole two years so I will her
dad died two years ago I don't know how
long they've been remarried I got you I
got you um not that that really matters
in in the long run
but does does any of it does anything
matter in the long run you tell
me we about to get into a
therapeutic for me the answer is
generally no like it's just not that
deep honestly isn't life easier when
you're like it's not that deep so much
easier like what freeing words to live
by I
know
um yeah so they're all on
assignment when Oscar went undercover
and was like on a mission he met Kenny's
mom at some event um and then like
convinced the powers that be that it
would be a good opportunity for his
cover
and uh Kenny's like asking CR like I
don't like how is my mom a good
opportunity for his cover and he's like
we're hunting a really bad man that's
all you really need to know right now
like you don't need more details is it
her dad I don't know
sorry like it came out of my mouth and
then I was like
Hannah that might be the very obvious
plot twist that we all saw coming
who can say what what so your hand
tightened a little bit as you
went and it looked a little more sexual
than I think you realized and I and then
I'm glad that I could just make sure
everyone knew
that look like I was going to bring my
hand up to my mouth and then I didn't
and so I
just you just brought it halfway and
closed your fist
[Laughter]
oh my God okay uh we're doing a really
good job okay so we're hunting a bad man
who may or may not be Kenny's
dad yeah you get it so the next morning
Kenny wakes up and Trotter's already
like linked in and he's making jokes
like she's like looking down and like
sees that she's wearing Crest clothes
and like tr's like oh like is like this
what I have to look forward to in the
mornings like I was hoping you'd be
wearing a little less right sort of
energy um Oscar and Crest tell Kenny
that they're all going on a mission
because she has the Stinger in her head
so she's now part of the team oh
congratulations buddy yeah so you know
nothing like an 18-year-old with no real
experience who just gets some tech in
their head to become part of the super
secret spy team how old are Crest and
Trotter
I want to say early to mid 20s
okay because that feels right in my
heart I don't
know fair enough I don't know if I have
the numbers to back that up fair enough
I mean I'm comfortable with that that
feels accurate for for this situation
yeah they're not as young as her they're
her older stepb brothers right but I'm
yeah I'd say early to mid 20s Final
Answer could be wrong I don't give a
[ __ ] if I am I'm not putting it in the
pub sub
Club okay so they're all going to Italy
on this Mission uh they're telling
Kenny's mom that they're all going on a
bonding trip to go fishing on their
yacht and Oscar's like yeah I'm just
going to like send your mom to the spa
it'll be chill don't you
worry and so we all just accept it sure
okay I'm I'm accepting
yes uh Trotter TAPS in like when she's
showering and so she like looks up so he
like can't see her vision and see and
he's like what are you what are you
doing do you do you need to look down
sort of energy uh but he's telling her
the the plan for the deal that's going
to go down when they get to Italy and
tells her to relay it to Crest and Oscar
and he starts uh I know we always talk
about how soon the nicknames start right
yeah uh so this the the nickname is
about to start for Trotter it's pigeon
and he calls her pigeon the entire book
cuz she's his personal carrier pigeon
unfortunate yeah and then like later on
like they'll like Be In the Heat of the
Moment and he'll be that's right little
bird like I just I mean little bird
feels better than pigeon yeah but I
think it's because pigeon was already
used too many sentences in a row so they
had to change it up with the little bird
more of that sort of I do agree little
bird is
objectively sexier than pigeon it feels
less derogatory like not that pigeon is
derogatory but I'm just like you know
they're carriers of disease and they're
kind of well then
Crest sets her P like gets her a pass uh
passport and gives her a code name and
so he calls her Everest
because it's one of the most beautiful
sites in the world or so p pig so we
have two ends of the spectrum here
pigeon and Everest why are you like
she's got both hands holding her head in
distress okay the Everest pigeon it's
like the males Falcon only
different the American
Eagle that
no I was thinking never mind this film
Noir is a whole thing with the mald
Falcon but oh yeah that is a thing I
know nothing about it's not really
relevant to anything but it's like in
the 40s and 50s there were like film
Noir became more popular and there's a
whole thing about a males Falcon and
everybody's it's like the Holy Grail
almost everybody's looking for the mald
Falcon so I thought of
it fascinating the other thing I was
thinking about is in um Flash Gordon
they have these uh worms or something
they're like all over somebody this is
in like 1959 or something these worms
everywhere and this one chick keeps
going not the poor worms and like
rubbing all over herself trying to get
the worms off of her and that's all I
could think about when you were talking
about this thing embedding under her
skin I was like not the B worms but I
knew you wouldn't know what that meant
you are right you not the poor not the
poor I think my favorite is the tone and
the Motions in which you
used to depict it well if you liked that
you should check out uh the bald and the
Beautiful when TS Madison is on because
she does an incredible impression of it
it's just all
boobs the bald and the Beautiful yeah I
canceled my PornHub subscription
it's Trixie Mattel and K's
podcast I'm learning so many things I
know nothing about oh my
God okay so we're do I need to start an
only
fans it's going to be fairy
Niche not the B
worms I was
it's just going to be called I'm
starting to only offense called the bald
and the
Beautiful I feel like if it became
popular Trixie Mattel and Kata would
have issues with
it
probably yeah also well oo I almost said
neither of us are bald then I went
well so sorry that that see that was the
whole joke about
pornub was out anyone's head
oh my God okay so they're on the flight
to Italy sure we're in Italy okay and
well so on the flight there Oscar is
like getting annoyed because he wants
Kenny to like Link in and be able to
like engage and talk to Trotter and get
more info and she's just really
struggling and he's like really being a
dick about it and is just like you need
to figure this out like this is
unacceptable you wanted to be on this
Mission and just kind of like storms off
and then Crest is like looking at Kenny
and he's like it took Trotter months to
be able to figure out how to do that
like he's stressed he's not being fair
like don't don't take it to heart and
Kenny's like why do you call him Oscar
instead of dad and he's like well
because he's always been more of a
Handler than a dad and like right how
our relationship is been and he's never
really like done the dad things and
Kenny's like you know I get that like my
dad did all of those things and if you
didn't have those I I understand the the
struggle right the disconnect mhm and
then like Crest like rest her head on
his lap and like get some sleep before
we get to Italy and it's kind of
a yeah I guess it's sweet enough
whatever she wakes up and is very
horny okay I believe they're still on
the flight uh and she's all like limbs
are Tangled with Crest and they're all
kind of like wrapped up but she's
realizing She's Horny because she's like
linked into Trotter and he's about to
get some dick no not some dick he's
about to lay pipe that's the wording
there it is I haven't even had that much
wine you haven't no I need more for this
book yeah well I put about to get [ __ ]
down and then I realized he's doing the
[ __ ] he's doing the [ __ ] silly
goose f a nickel for every time I use
the wrong word to describe a sexual
encounter I would have several nickels
after I was going to say at least two
per
episode I was trying to give you so much
more you really
were honestly I should probably give
myself more more credit cuz I'm like I'm
[ __ ] up those words every episode and
you're like hey Chelsea there was that
one time you said everybody gets a
[ __ ] but I was also for the record
hand I don't think you've ever said this
I was going to say everybody gets
conolingus a blow which is also wrong if
Rihanna can say everyone gets a [ __ ]
so can I yes you can you're basically
Rihanna you nailed
[Music]
it okay well that felt
hurtful yes you can Chelsea you're like
a little Rihanna in training you say it
oh no uh but then Trotter's like pigeon
the [ __ ] are you doing here and she's
like I don't know and he I just woke up
yeah and he's like you're the one who
like established that link like that one
wasn't me but he does cut it off well
that's nice of him to do yes very kind
yes benevolent fellow that that Trotter
they get to Italy and they're telling uh
Kenny that she's going to be extra eyes
at the gala where one of the big
meetings is going down uh and like
Trout's annoyed on her behalf because
he's like you have no training right
this feels very unsafe yes to put an
18-year-old girl with no training into a
potentially risky situation and he is
like can feel her anxiety and like feel
her like getting stressed out as they're
sharing senses so he's like control your
thoughts like cuz he can feel all of
those physical changes within her um but
also he can feel the physical changes
within her when she's like looking over
at Crest and like getting a little
tingly he's very
hot tr's like oh okay well if he's hot
I'm hot twins yes feel that too nailed
it uh they she's getting ready for the
gala she ends up kissing Crest before
she goes I don't know it's all a little
messy sure the whole thing is she asks
like what like the mission objectives
are and they're like you don't need to
worry about that you're just there to be
eyes in the room I would be so mad if I
were
her yeah
personally but I feel like here's the
thing I feel like she gets mad on this
book but it's often at like the wrong
thing in those moments right yeah
whatever okay going further because I
could just go on so many side tangents
with this at the gala she's wandering
This creepy dude named Drake comes up to
her and is
uh like oh you're like the most
beautiful woman in the room sort of
energy and she's like it does that
normally work and he's like well what
normally works is when I tell women that
I have a private jet in an island and we
can fly there tomorrow and she's like
ick yeah she's like I'm not really
impressed you have anything else to
offer and I'm like good for you girl so
she excuses herself to like use the
bathroom and try and get away from Drake
uh but she does also like see Trotter
and he's at the gala and he has eyes on
her as like Drake is talking to her like
she can like feel his jealousy through
their link right so she excuses herself
to use the
bathroom and then the target arrives to
the event but her view is blocked and
she can't see them at all and so she's
trying to follow and like do what she
thinks she's supposed to do and like
Drake ends up following her and then is
like very handsy and he blocks the
door and it's just like one of continued
like messy situation um right highly
avoidable messy situation yes that as
well yeah everything in this book feels
avoidable yeah lock your door crest
yeah very simple solution from the jump
which he does say at the end of the book
like at some point he's like yeah the
only reason my my door was unlocked was
because I was in a rush to like follow
you to the party to like make sure you
were safe sort of like everything but
even at that I'm like okay even if he
didn't lock the door we have so many
different choices we we could have made
at any point you didn't need to take
Kenny to Italy she can link into him
from wherever mhm so if you already have
eyes and ears in a situation cuz Trotter
is there does it really [ __ ] matter
where she is cuz she's not a trained
field agent she's an 18-year-old
girl I think we can tell how I felt a
little bit I am picking it up the
exasperation yes the exasperation she uh
it's like consumed by Trotter's rage
because they're LinkedIn as Dr is all of
this and like kind of like is fueled by
Trotter's rage to like KNE Drake and the
balls and then bolts um she's kind of
aimlessly wandering in her Panic of like
what of the almost that just happened
and um an a door opens and like Crest
pulls her in real fast and it's like
making sure she's safe and he like takes
her back to the surveillance van where
then she spends the next few hours
LinkedIn and Rel laying the info from
trod which is what she should have
[ __ ] been doing the whole time if you
ask meh MH yeah I'm like oh the more
logical solution that was at in front of
us this entire time
right so yeah she's just sitting in the
van now listening to Trotter and we do
learn here that the target is a biot
terrorist who like wants to release a
chemical agent in the air that can like
decimate several square miles but like
the chem the chemical hasn't been made
yet
that's part of the whole deal right so
they're trying to prevent it from even
being created yeah okay uh but also
because she's LinkedIn and Drake is like
at this meeting that Trotter's in about
this deal she's like trod like
intentionally like spills his drink all
over Drake he trips and she finds that
very endearing because I you know I
guess it was I guess it was indeed in
hearing I'll give him that
they this book oh I
just this whole book is very reactive
and I also
think maybe they only paid someone to
edit the first half of it and so it just
gets even more convoluted but then I
feel like as I'm trying to communicate
it my my communication is convoluted
because it's convoluted but then I'm in
my head cuz I'm like is this just a
trilina pooi situation where I misread
half of it so it's not actually
convoluted and this is all just user
error so as they're in the van they're
getting a little bit closer and uh like
Crest is saying like he wants to kill
Drake and like Kenny's like yeah I felt
Trotter almost like go after him while
we were there and as Crest and Kenny are
just getting closer in the van and kind
of having this moment she's like Trotter
is like Linked In like he can feel and
like he's very aware of all of this and
Crest is like he can leave if he
wants and then he fingers her in the van
yeah and Trotter's like encouraging her
like through the link he's like yeah
ride his fingers sort of energy okay and
they're like very Territorial and
they're like nobody gets to touch you
but us you're ours now
okay what I feel like that escalated
with swiftness
yeah the step brother she's lived with
for years who apparently has just I
guess had a secret crush on her or
thought she was attractive and is trying
to keep her safe yeah you know I call I
guess I would call that a secret crush
and then he has a twin
brother and then she accidentally
inserts a stinger AO into her person and
now they're like you're ours and no one
can touch you but us
what she's like just trying to get
off and now they're like I think she's
here for the possessiveness I yeah I
mean at
18 I feel
like I did not fully comprehend like
that that's not
cute yeah you know and to be fair I
could see my husband saying nobody
touches you but me and like yeah that
feels like the appropriate time to say
that right because we're married because
we have a legally
binding
agreement I signed the paper that said
that you're correct yeah right yeah um
and also if you sign the paper and you
have a different Dynam dynamic in your
marriage then more power to you but the
uh just like territorial jealousy that
you think is like sexy and cool when
you're young and you're I'm like
no yeah no not all about that life I was
once at a 19-year-old's wedding
reception yep uh and
the it was like a family wedding
reception and we were like I don't even
know how we got there we weren't family
uh but we were there and like one of the
family friends that like the 18-year-old
bride had kissed when she was like 13
and like had a crush on when she was
younger he was there and the 19-year-old
groom had recently graduated from basic
training and is like should I like lifts
his shirt and like had a firearm on him
and he's like should I prove a point no
no you [ __ ] shouldn't prove a
point as I'm sure you'll be shocked to
hear that couple's no longer
married but yeah just I'm like what is
this like
19-year-old
Macho it does doesn't read how you think
it reads well it's that whole thing of
like you know so many people now want to
be like the alpha or whatever but truly
like we've had this discussion before a
real Alpha does not go around picking
fights because they don't need to
like yes that's not what an alpha is
about it's about taking care of people
and showing up for them and meeting
their needs you're like making sure
everyone there is safe right yeah like
unless you have a fanny with Band-Aids
and Neosporin and juice boxes and snacks
you're not an
alpha okay so all soccer moms are alphas
it doesn't have to be a fanny pack it
could be a messenger bag or cargo shorts
for all I care unless unless you have a
styrofoam cooler filled with orange
slices you are not an
alpha exactly you get
it I okay so most Alphas are just at
like family
Parks or sporting events yes yes no
other Alphas outside
of if the love doesn't come with
Neosporin and orange slices I don't want
it okay so they're really territorial
yeah um but it's also kind of back to
business as usual after that happens uh
and oh because she like they turn their
comms back on and Oscar is talking to
them and like talking about getting back
to the hotel um
and something comes up like about like
Kenny asks about crest's Mom and Crest
just like kind of shuts down and doesn't
respond and she's like oh he like
doesn't want to talk to me um and then
like really doesn't say anything to her
the whole time they like go back to the
hotel uh they they go to their separate
rooms and she's just feeling super
agitated and I guess since her dad
passed away uh we
don't this this will come up in a second
uh she really struggles with panic
attacks and anxiety and so running has
been very helpful and it's her like
primary coping skill um and so she's
like I think I'll go on a run but when
she opens the door there's like a guard
outside of it being like you can't leave
your room you need to stay here for your
safety she's like oh well like can you
go tell Oscar I wanted to talk to him
and then as soon as he like goes inside
Oscar's room she bolts and is going on a
run cuz she's 18 she has limited coping
resources she's in a weird situation
she's G just going to do yes whatever
yeah and I think that is kind of the
frustrating thing because a lot of it
feels like intent versus impact right
where she's like but like I'm 18 and
this is just like what I like thought
was supposed to do in this situation
like oh okay like it's all of the intent
none of the reactive impact that comes
with an untrained 18-year-old being a
field agent right um a couple miles into
her run she like notices someone is
following her which no [ __ ] someone's
following you that's why they didn't
want you to leave uh and then she like
starts trying to evade them and taking
random back roads and such
and then eventually like trips and
they're like catching up with her it's
Trotter sure yeah it's been Trotter this
whole time um and he like pushes her
against the wall and they start making
out sure yeah as one does MH
mhm I love that we just get in this zone
of like sure why wouldn't that be what
happens next yep yep of course yep don't
know why I didn't guess that one well
because if we start truly thinking about
it we'll be here forever because we'll
just be like that's wor [ __ ] and we'll
go on a whole thing about why that's hor
[ __ ] you know touche yeah yeah well and
she's like why are you even here I'm not
even important and he's like you're the
most important thing to
us and she's like and he's like you
didn't take your coms out and as soon as
Crest saw that you left I like he let me
know so I could come and make sure you
were safe and then she's like looking at
him and she's like is that blood on you
and he's like Drake will never hurt you
again so they're just implying that the
he just [ __ ] killed Drake just casual
murder yeah yeah as you
do
no that's not as you do like yeah it's
not as I do well I'm just like does no
one here have the ability to use healthy
coping skills
well her only healthy coping skill is
running
and she it sounds like a bougie hotel is
there not a treadmill somewhere that she
can use I don't know I have questions
I'm trying to give her a little bit of
credit just a little bit I know right
I'm I'm a little annoyed with her and I
will say that let me work on being a
little more positive and understanding
of her experience but when she's like
I'm not even important Trout's like when
I said no one gets to touch you but but
us I meant it she's like you don't know
me he's like I know I can't wait for my
turn to be inside
you okay yeah I had just taken a large
gulp of wine before you said those
words all right just on the streets of
Italy I mean probably in an
alley so I me if you're going to do that
I guess an alley in Italy is probably
you know I think they have a lot of them
there
yeah a lot of
alleys yeah
like I think I was just thinking it does
lend itself to secluded places sure sure
sure like shadowy Corners yeah shadowy
alleys to secretly [ __ ] like that
that's how the Romans designed it
obviously
and that's why Rome wasn't built in a
day because there
were spots to
[ __ ] because they were too busy
making secluded sex
spots you know kind
of
touche they run back to the hotel and
Trout's like Crest is covering for you
when you get inside like just go to your
room you'll be good and so
he goes back to his undercover
assignment and when she gets up to her
room like Crest like opens her bedroom
door and just like pulls her into it and
he is pissed and she's like why do you
even care you haven't spoken to me since
the van and he's like the problem is I
care too
much this is very much like daytime soap
opera yes it's giving daytime soap opo
with like a secret twin and secret
agents but like unedited yeah yeah yeah
yeah so that
is like I
feel like some of this book is just a
little underdeveloped or like I see like
what they're going for but I'm just like
could we make this feel all right I feel
like an [ __ ] for saying this I'm like
but could we make it feel a little less
juvenile in in their approaches MH um
because I think between the
sometimes Juvenile and reactive
responses and then parts of the plot
that aren't like fully like developed
out it just feels even Messier and more
convoluted and so there are things that
I'm like I can't tell if she's supposed
to be this reactive or if it just reads
that way because it's not well edited in
pieces and and portions
right the next morning Oscar is telling
Kenny to get ready for whatever their
new mission is cuz who the [ __ ] knows um
in the bathroom Trotter links in and she
like looks up from the mirror so that
like can't see your titties sure and
he's like let me see what I'll be waking
up to every morning when all this is
over give me them tickle Bitties I get
it well we we aren't all as lucky as
[Laughter]
you uh but as he's saying that and he's
like oh like show me like what I'll be
waking up to when all this is over she
hears a woman in the background and he's
like one second Rosa and then kind of
like disconnects and she is filled with
a lot of jealousy over whatever's
happening on his undercover assignment
she's like so you're trying to Ogle my
boobies while talking to another
womanless we forget he was [ __ ] down
another woman very recently not getting
[ __ ] down or maybe he was I don't know
what he and Rosa were into we're not
here to judge no All God's
Children to be clear Who We Are here to
judge the
book just not people's sexual
choices
um I have been reading
Leviticus not the book of the Bible I
was going to say what the W nope I oh
wow I
see yeah no I don't even know what my
face did but it was a lot I see what
happened
there I was about to say by El Sparrow
oh sure uh not by who wrote Leviticus
Moses I don't know it's been a while
since I've taken an Old Testament class
wasn't it one of the 12 it doesn't
matter like the
tribes
probably it's it's been over a decade
since I was in
seminary it's been over a decade since I
was in VBS which is where I would have
gotten that trivia from if you were in
VBS a decade ago I would have more
questions
you could still legally drink a decade
ago oh my God it was two decades oh no
it's like I saw a post where a professor
was like I'll never recover from this
email and it was like is there
um uh limit on how far back our
references can go I found a great
article from the late
1900s and I wasn't sure if that was
okay deceased
done oh my God and I was like oh God
damn that's okay because the book of the
Bible Leviticus is
a is a ride unto itself so the book
Leviticus by El Sparrow is a very
fascinating uh book to me it's about I
think like there are five brothers all
of them will get a book but the uh the
families all are in a cult and the
brothers are like making PL to escape
the cult but haven't been able to escape
yet so they're laying all their groundw
work they know all of them are going to
have to get married then they're going
to like offer this freedom to these
women as well but they've all gotten
very into kink in their own individual
lives as they've been like figuring out
their world outside of this cult right
and so Leviticus is he goes by Levi and
the the brother Bartholomew goes by Ali
I was going to say Bart and then Malachi
goes by
Kai is I get it yes yeah um but it's
very interesting to me because it's like
Levi desire for submission and he's very
much a Dom and like very like a like
procedure based right Kink um and his
new wife is like a natural submissive
and like also within the and like the
expectations like the gender
expectations she's just more naturally
inclined to be submissive so he's like
there are all of these things that I
want in a wife but I but but I don't
want them in a wife I want them in a
submissive but I don't know how to have
these conversations with her yeah so
it's a very
interesting read on that because then
he's also like explaining the world of
Kink to her and like explaining uh
Littles and things of that capacity and
she's like I don't think that's for me
and he's like and it's not really for me
either but like we're we accept every
like just thoroughly enjoy the way in
which they are describing and
approaching communication of Kink yeah
yeah yeah would recommend it ironically
same author as XOXO
daddy which has which is a different
experience yeah different energy yes
um I forget where we were cuz I decided
to go on a very very long tangent
she was getting jealous because Trot was
in the Rosa that's how we started yes
that that's how we got on that whole
situation uh when she leaves the
bathroom Crest is in her bedroom like
waiting for her and just another
dramatic conversation where he's like I
care don't think that I don't and she's
like do you care for me like a brother
and he's like is that what you want say
it and I'll stop
just
like this feels like
someone chat GPT may have been used at
some point to help with the dialogue
right right yes um Oscar comes in and is
trying to prep Kenny um but like his his
approach for prepping her for a mission
is she like you need to take this
seriously if you don't take it seriously
millions of people could die but like
once again she's an untrained
18-year-old
right what am I taking seriously give me
specific things to do yes when most of
what they have her doing is just like
being the eyes and relaying the
messages right give me a [ __ ]
checklist
Bud yeah you know like well so she
starts to have like a full-blown panic
attack and Trotter can feel it and he
can tell and so trod and Crest over the
years have like developed their own
secret sign language it's not ASL but
they can communicate with each other
and so Trotter is telling her he's like
hey like make this sign like put like
three fingers down on your left hand now
put one like walking her through it and
so then Crest sees and he's like hey Dad
go pack like why don't you go finish
packing and I'll like run the diagnostic
on whatever T Kenny has or something
like that um which was very kind and and
very sweet um but she like officially
tells them she has panic attacks that
she's had them since her dad passed away
that running is really the only coping
skill that she has
uh
and so Crest tells Kenny he's like hey
like when you're linked into Trotter use
him so like almost like as therapist
when we talk about like using your five
senses to ground you but it's like using
his five senses where he is regulated
and you are disregulated so use his
regulation to ground you right like when
you bre bre with someone or yes like
okay what's he smelling right now name
five things you can
hear it is a very helpful coping like
that was not me [ __ ] on that coping
making fun of it um but yeah that is
essentially like Crest is telling her
use Trotter to like ground yourself to
do a 54321 yeah do a
54321 and Crest is like why didn't you
tell me that you had these panic attacks
and she's like because you weren't
speaking to
me just like the yeah all of this
because it's none of your business like
we weren't close why would I just
disclose it yeah well and so then he
like you fingered me in a van bro like
we're not
like well I think she wanted it to be
more and then he didn't talk to her so
right I think in her head it's not just
like she's like you you fingered me in a
van and I expect full commitment
now I'm like who gives a [ __ ] move on
and she's like obviously this scans we
going to get married and have babies
which is such an 18-year-old thing you
know and I feel like you're like yeah
you know like when you go to the club
and you make out with a rando and then
you leave the club and never see them
again and you never think of it again
and everything was fine yeah and she's
like but his fingers have been inside of
me will we not beat together forever now
is more of the energy of it
a they leave to plant cameras and mics
before the meeting that they have
tomorrow so that's the mission right now
they are planting
cameras proactively noted yes um they
are at the fancy restaurant where the
meeting will be happening and she needs
to get in well they need to get into a
back room to plant the cameras Oscar and
Kenny are at the table Oscar also always
calls her Kennedy which is her full name
but only her dad ever called her Kennedy
so she gets like really annoyed whenever
Oscar like CU she'll make it's Kenny and
he'll just like keep talking over her
sort of energy yeah so uh that's why it
took me a second to say Kenny cuz I was
about to say Kennedy um but I do know
her name I haven't had that much wine
got it thank you yes thriving today
Kenny this is my best work
1,00% so osar is like pointing at a guy
in front of the door uh who's standing
there and he's telling her like hey like
he's going to be are in he uh is very
into beautiful women and loves the
Damsel in
Distress and Trotter and Crest are
getting annoyed because they're like
what the [ __ ] is our dad about to do and
like what situation they didn't prep her
for this at all like no Oscar didn't
prep her for the fact that he was going
to backhand her at the table in the
restaurant and be like you [ __ ] like
you can't leave me think I don't know
you're cheating with the golf instructor
I don't know if he actually said that
last part but like that's very much the
right the energy so then the dude I
think his name is Miguel comes over to
like rescue her and they escort well she
really did need a rescue he's hitting
her like
legitimately like did not uh did not
slow play that whole situation but no
one knew that that was Oscar's plan so
like everyone is Big mad about this to
use your
words Miguel ends up taking uh Kenny
into like the back room where she needed
to be and lo and
behold other people are also in that
room including Trotter with another
woman on his lap sure in his undercover
assignment uh and there's like a card
game going on and it's clearly like the
high rollers and and all of those people
so like Miguel is actually he
he does have an end goal but he brings
her ice and he's like put this on your
face then as he like hands her the ice
he like pulls her onto his lap and she's
like oh not not trying to go that that
hard not where I wanted to sit actually
yes and so he leans in to kiss her and
she's like I need to use the
bathroom cuz once again that's her only
move it's her she has no training she
just keeps she doesn't have any
moves and she's just so beautiful men
keep hitting on her every place she goes
oh the pretty privilege
though uh the episodes of 30 Rock with
John Ham
incredible Matt and I just rewatched
that oh we haven't rewat 30 Rock in a
while yeah I don't know we just picked
it up recently no I feel like I feel
like that one used to be in rotation as
like the we've watched it a thousand
times but we'll watch it again Comfort
comt yeah yes background yeah mhm uh I
feel like Scrubs well I think for scrubs
is one of mine but Vance was like not
into scrubs when it was more of a thing
so I think now when he watches it he's
like I don't yeah I don't really get
different now it does yeah
uh I would be very curious because I
only listened to the first episode or
two but I know uh Zack Brath and Donald
fison had I listen to a few yeah I
listen to like the first couple but I
would curious cuz I don't know if they
continued doing the reviews but yeah a
lot of episodes they did a lot I think
but I just remember at one point Zach
bra went everything in the show was so
sexual oh my God
like I was like yeah Zach [ __ ] yeah
everything everything it was either
like sexual or like very like poignant
deep moments that had a little bit of
like wit in them um and I think that's
always like what I resonated with on the
show I was like oh it's funny and it has
those moments which is also probably why
I love shrinking because it's the same
right director or Creator MH uh whose
wife played Dr Cox's wife yes yes
MH she's very funny she is and then
there was Cougar Town which was awes I
never watched Cougar Town well Cougar
Town definitely was like started with
her being like I'm a cougar and then it
just became about like these neighbors
who all live in a culde saac and have
fun and I I'm into that yeah I like I
feel like when the show first came out
it was like trying to find its footing
and then when it did I was like hey I
like where you landed more than where
you thought you were going to land yeah
uh but all that said she goes to the
bathroom again because that's her one
move Trotter follows her I'm sure we're
all surprised and like pushes her
against the wall and his one move which
is his one move he's like what like what
did I say about like no one touches you
but us and I'm like okay what the [ __ ]
was home girl spell your dad slapped her
across the face Miguel got her the in
she
needed I and he pulled her into he gave
her ice he just wanted some sexual
favors in
return and was set up to believe she was
going to offer those sexual favors
right Miguel's the real victim
here Justice for
Miguel like oh was it was it uh that
Empire of lust series when K showed up
and she's like justice for Amanda and
we're like she was the villain she's
like oh I missed that and like she
kidnapped her own daughter how did we
miss that she was the
villain St one of the funniest it was
really good cuz she was going to die on
that [ __ ]
Hill she's like Amanda was just
misunderstood was she was she though
like musolini just deeply
misunderstood so Trotter's doing his
whole possessive didn't I say no one
touches you but us and he's like pulling
down the strap to her dress and like
biting her boob doesn't say your nip
just her boob which I think is an
important thing to clarify I don't know
why but it does feel like if you're not
undressing someone right biting their
nipples versus biting the meteor part
around their nip
sure you're like I'm just going to see
how far Chelsea goes with this and noted
a
r no what I was thinking was like
like why like what are you doing like
just the sensual touches you know you
got her pushed against the wall you're
biting her
boob uh he tells her to leave the
cameras and that he'll take care of it
and he's like leave the cameras with me
I'll place them like but like if he
touches you again like I'm going to lose
my [ __ ] and she's like you literally had
a girl on your lap and he's like I'm
literally undercover and she's like me
too I get it and so then Trotter like
leans in and like whispering in her ear
and just goes pull it Crest and then the
fire alarm goes off and Trout's like you
will be sneaking out the back door you
will be handing me those cameras thank
you so much you're not doing this right
so I will
say while Crest and Trotter are a little
extra overp
possessive they are also seeming aware
that she's not trained and are trying to
like fill in the deficits where their
dad is just like putting her into these
dangerous situations means two and in
and then is annoyed when she's not
performing right so Oscar's a little bit
of a dick in that capacity see that when
Kenny gets outside uh Crest is there
with a motorcycle and sure so then they
just have like a great intimate
motorcycle moment
as you do as as one does yep they ride
to the safe house where Crest has a
change of clothes for her that she's not
wearing a flimsy dress on the back of a
motorcycle and she realizes like she
hasn't checked in with her mom or called
her or updated her about anything this
whole time and Crest has apparently been
photoshopping a bunch of photos to look
like they're on a fishing trip so he's
like I'll upload them you can like give
them to your mom whenever and Kenny's
also overwhelmed because she's like my
mom is all I've got but also like until
my mom Met Your Dad she was destroyed
when my dad died when like they were
high school
SweeTarts thought they'd be together
forever like was despondent couldn't pay
the bills very much one of those
situations where like Kenny had to
become the adult right and not and
changed the dynamic and the relationship
with her
mom um when they get back to the hotel
Kenny tells off Oscar and it's like you
will never put your hand on me again and
my name is Kenny not Kennedy [ __ ] sort
of I'm like I don't think we could have
left it with the hands he knows your
name he's just an [ __ ] right but in
that way where I'm like yeah you set
those
boundaries little 18-year-old you
who he doesn't give a [ __ ] about he
doesn't clearly yeah and like if he was
willing to smack his stepdaughter across
the face in public in public but it's
also like well like had to do it for
character did
you feels like you could have just
yelled at her like you know yeah well so
the next day uh Kenny is Meandering
through the streets of Italy as you do
yeah because they're like she's like
they're in prepping for the meeting I'm
like eyes but I'm just like being a
tourist sort of energy ah
Recon or whatever yeah be that's all she
can do and she can't even do it well cuz
dudes keep hitting on her another dude
walks up and is flirting with her and so
she I don't know if it's the bathroom
this time but she does excuse herself to
like go to the rendevu point but like on
the way there she starts to feel funny
and is just like oh no not now I've been
taking my meds and then just passes out
on the streets in
Italy I had another thought that's
unrelated have you heard the song host
depressed by thought Squad because if
not you should I have not but I feel
like I absolutely will by the end of the
day the main Hook is These Hoes
depressed not me I take my
[Laughter]
meds that's all I can think I've been
taking my meds yeah she's like I'll beat
that [ __ ] to death JK I take my meds
I really enjoyed that Tik Tock trend for
a while where people were just uh
dancing to shake what your mama gave you
but they were just shaking their pill
bottles of their anti-depressants
100%
yep hit so hard cuz it hits so
true that's how we got there so when
Kenny wakes up she sees a guy standing
over her who's like clearly distressed
and he's like wearing a suit but like
the jacket's off and then that guy has a
twin brother who's wearing more casual
clothes and she's like I don't know who
these people are like she's asking where
her dad is oh no yeah then she sees like
another older dude that she's like I
don't know him but he looks like more my
my dad's age and then suddenly like
things are starting to come to where
she's like oh like you're Oscar my dad
is dead like the people stand like the
guy standing over me are Trotter and
crested um and so she tells them that
she is
uh diagnosed with I guess this is a
diagnosis that I'm probably going to
mispronounce but kiari type 1
malformation oh which I looked up it is
a a real diagnosis it seems like
something with like your brain St
something is a little longer than it
should be and can cause dizziness and
brain fog and confusion h
um I will say I do not know enough about
this diagnosis to make an informed
decision about how I communicate about
it I did accidentally write chabani
malformation instead of I think kiari I
I could be [ __ ] that up right
um but also when I was like looking it
up
on Google and on the internet before we
were
recording it kind kind of seem like you
know when you watch like an episode of
like CSI or like Law and Order yeah and
like they're like this person's really
erratic and they're like you don't
understand they have ADHD they can't
control their impulses and you're like
oh I don't know if uh ADHD is
really all-encompassing enough for what
you're saying it does and so a little
bit of the same situation here where
this seems like if if this is a symptom
that does happen it's it's a very rare
one in the in the real world but from
how they describe it in the book it
causes seizures which uh causes like
short-term memory loss yeah um and so
she can have moments where she'll just
kind of like be a little disoriented
much like when she was in Crest room and
she's like why am I here how did I get
here but like it's not very often that
she has like full episodes where she
like passes outs out yeah wakes up and
is like who the [ __ ] are these people
that's a little bit more of a
rarity and Oscar's immediately like [ __ ]
that I didn't know this is no longer
safe not that it was safe before but
he's like you're no longer on the
mission I'm sending you back to your mom
right
um like does it really make a difference
Oscar if like you were just letting her
just like gallivant around Italy
pretending to be a secret agent this
whole time
whatever apparently it does the deal
didn't happen uh and we learned that
because Kenny where she passed out just
happened to be like in front of the meat
spot and they're like yeah they got
spooked when a girl passed out in front
of the place where the meeting was
supposed to go down whoops so it didn't
happen but they're like not sure if
Trotter's cover is blown within
that but Oscar also was like looking at
like the three of them and he's like I
see what's happening here like I'm not
naive to what's going on between like
the three of you like I thought you
could fight your urges instead you're
jeopardizing it all for his
daughter much to your
hypothesis from
earlier so when Oscar leaves Kenny's
like well I guess this is it I guess I'm
going back to America and Crest is like
I'm not so sure about that the they're
having a hard time with their Tech to
get the flight ready for you to go oh
because I'm the best tech boy who ever
teched direct quote too no no that was
not a direct I was much feeling Chelsea
shut the [ __ ] up I'm a big Tech
boy if Mark Zuckerberg has fanfiction
I'm sure that's what it says I'm the
best tech boy to ever Tech aren't I
whoever Tech to Tech he oh my
God uh Kenny apologizes for not telling
the guys about her diagnosis and they're
like if you apologize one more time I'm
going to walk out that door and not do
all the things I want to do to you
before I have to
leave okay yeah and then they all [ __ ]
so not Oscar he's not there anymore just
that's good just to be clear he wasn't
invited to this party who wasn't invited
no he was not invited um Trotter well
Crest is like should we like rock paper
scissors for who goes first and tr's
like you've already like had this
experience so I'm calling dib sort of
energy and then uh the sex is really
mindblowing because they're like sharing
their senses with each other so it's
kind of like building on top of that and
then Trotter is holding her arms behind
her back as Crest [ __ ] her and it's so
good they all learn she's a squirter
sure including her fun yeah yeah
so
yay did she do that thing because I feel
like I've read it in multiple books now
where she's like oh my go you have to
stop like it feels too good I feel like
I'm going to pee and the guy's like hell
yeah do it and it's like a whole thing
where the girl is freaking out you've
got to stop reading those motorcycle
club romances no it wasn't even just
those it was other ones it wasn't even
just those it was other ones
too you know exactly what I'm talking
about though where the girl is like
freaking out and the guy's like this is
the best thing that's ever happened and
the girl is like so distraught she
wasn't distraught in this one it was
more of like a o didn't know you were a
squirter she's like me either it's more
the energy that this one gives and it's
like I guess when it's that good you
learn things about
yourself
yeah so Trotter has to go he's going to
try and like get back in the ranks and
like see if his cover was
blown but he plans on taking the whole
like yeah a girl passed out and everyone
got spooked and then someone jumped me
so he has Crest beat him up before but
it's like this very dramatic where he's
like I need to go and he's like wait in
the shower Crest will join you sort of
energy so that she
won't it or feel it I
guess so then Crest and Kenny take a
shower together and they're like talking
about their
families and
uh how distant Oscar is as a dad and
Kenny's just like telling him about like
sweet memories that she had with her dad
of like going on a lot of camping trips
and like he would like taught her to
hunt and and things like that so she
does end up linking into troter and she
can figure out how to engage and
disengage it on her own at this point
and she's like feeling all of his pain
because Crest beat him up right um but
she's like no I'm going to force myself
to endure it so that I can give the play
byplay to Crest to make sure that they
know Trotter's safe
okay yeah so trout in his undercover
role is essentially like the second in
command for the guy Riley big
intimidating name uh who's
buying the
bioweapon okay so that is his role and
where he has been this whole time he uh
has been facilitating the deal with the
chemist so as apparently they they buy
it that he was jumped and it's a
non-issue but as the car arrives with
the chemist uh Trotter is telling Kenny
he's like hey cut the feed and she's
like what like I don't understand and
he's like I didn't want it to come to
this I didn't want you to find out this
way I didn't want you to see this but
can't he cut the feed he doesn't I yep
these are these are questions that are
apologies no apologies needed um but I
will just be very clear in saying every
question you have is a valid question
that I also
have
and I have no
answers okay I can accept that yes um so
when he's like I didn't want it to come
to this I didn't want you to to find out
this way suddenly like through his
vision the guy getting out of the car is
Joseph the chemist Kenny's
father yeah this is the collective gasp
none of us saw this coming no at no
point in the recording of this episode
have I even seen it coming this is brand
new in I never could have prepared
myself I am
flabbergasted yes Hannah your face is
the face of someone truly
flabbergasted yeah that and a bulldozer
would knock me
over
sorry Trotter is then like trying to
talk to her and she just like fully
unlinks from it and Crest grabs her and
like throws her in the van and once
again she's big mad again sure yeah yeah
I would be and Oscar doesn't care that
she's big mad he's like hey my son is
out there and you are my connection to
making sure my son is safe so I need you
to like get the [ __ ] over yourself and
relink and like put on your big girl
panties yes which like I do understand
where Oscar is coming from and I also
understand how this situation was
entirely preventable
literally they would have justed her so
many times like when she asked who's the
target 15 [ __ ] times already yeah and
they said you don't need to know no
stress you're just
doing
surveillance that I need to smack you
across the face for it's really feeling
like they're choosing when she's an
actual agent and when she's not we're
cherry picking here yeah and Kenny's
like like I like Oscar I hate you and
when we get back I'm gonna tell my mom
all of this and he's like yeah your mom
already knows oh damn link back
in I need to make sure my son's safe
here so as Kenny links back in things
are in mass chaos like everyone is
running people are shooting like things
are not going great in this moment
and uh her dad hops in like his Caravan
of SUVs and is leaving and she's trying
to wave down his like SUV and it's like
Dad Dad I'm right
here and like the the SUVs are not
stopping and like Trotter tackles her so
that she won't get run over by all of
these SUVs and then she looks and like
realizes like Trotter was like shot at
some point like tackled her so she
wouldn't get hit by a
car and she just like sees a motorcycle
in the chaos and just hops on the
motorcycle and decides to follow after
her dad
okay good luck
Trotter yep like Trotter's holding aside
bleeding on the ground and she speed Bud
she's like my dad doesn't understand the
bad people he's involved with a honey
yep yeah no really uh
unfortunate really choosing to believe
the version of this that she wants to
believe right so she is following her
dad and the Caravan of SUV but she's
like looking over her shoulder at one
point she like looks over her shoulder
to see if she's being followed and the
SUVs have all slammed on their brakes so
she almost crashes into them and like
wipes out on the motorcycle and gets
like road rash and then her dad's goons
grab her and they like talk about like
dumping her body or what what have you
and she's like no like tell Joseph like
I'm Kennedy like he'll like want to see
me like I I swear I promise and so sure
enough they're like yep talk to the boss
he says like keep her and then they
chloroform her and she passes out and
when they get her in the
car so when she comes to she's in an
unknown location like being kept in a
room with like a bed no toilet they're
bringing a bucket for her sort of energy
yeah um we're in a like dungeon
situation a little bit Yeah and we we do
learn it's been five days that yeah like
oh damn sometime has passed so she was
like unconscious for that long or that's
when we it seemed like they ended up
putting her in like a medically induced
coma when they got her there sort of
thing like they chose to keep her
sedated but also to like help her body
heal from all of the the road rash and
such so her dad comes in um Joseph and
she's like he looks just like my dad but
like has like different manner like
she's like this is not the guy I grew up
with this is not the dad that like was
my mom's high school sweetheart who took
me on hiking and camping trip
um and he's like oh she's like oh thank
God like we we need to escape these are
bad people and he and he's sitting there
and he's like what were you doing in
Italy and she's like that's not the
question I no dad like these are bad
people and she's like I well maybe
actually she's not there yet I think
she's playing a little bit more dumb and
so when he's like what were you doing in
Italy she's a little bit more like I was
on
a fishing trip with my stepdad and step
brother sort of sort of thing but like
this goes on for apparently like over 2
weeks oh and they're just like he's
questioning her for that long I don't
know if he's questioning her for that
long but they're like keeping her in the
room for that long and like one of the
guys is a little bit kinder to her and
every day she's like how long have I
been here and she's like marking it like
on the wall and so it's been over 14
days since she's been there um but has
not really given her dad any info
outside of being like Dad like what are
you doing why why were you in Italy MH
uh sort of thing mhm so a couple weeks
into this um her dad wakes her up and
like shaking her and he's like we need
to escape like we need to go like right
now like gra grab your stuff and let's
go so like they're running they have
this whole plan like there's like a body
of water they like Escape across the
body of water and are swimming and
continuing to run and escaping
and uh as they're like catching their
breath her dad asks again he's like so
like how did you find me in Italy and
she was like why did people start
shooting in Italy and like doesn't
really like answer his question and then
that's when she gets a little bit more
like these are bad people like let me
help
you uh and her dad's like what do you
know about these bad people and she
literally tells him everything oh honey
does stop like that is such a setup
though like he did all that on
purpose yeah I'm guessing but not
guessing
yeah and like I I think it's also one of
those books like as you're reading it at
no point are you like what this is a
plot twist you like see every plot twist
coming from the first page of the book
yeah so I think you're just like
watching her do it and you're just like
[ __ ] hell Kenny yeah like don't go in
the basement
like like don't go in there keep that
Caucasian curiosity to
yourself don't go in the basement do not
hop on that motorcycle let them Escape
good ma'am you are safe you are fine you
do not need to involve yourself in that
but yeah so she like literally tells him
everything including the fact that she
has like the [ __ ] stinger in her head
oh sweetheart and so then they're like
as they're remaining
they're trekking to
safety their escape yeah their escape
they push through some bushes and she
sees their cabin and she's like wait
this is where we've been this whole time
and like it finally like starts to click
for her that she's like oh my God my dad
actually isn't a good person mhm and
he's the actual enemy in this and you're
like yep yep he sure is
we glad you got here wish you'd gotten
here a little bit sooner but baby girl
but glad you got
here so when they get into the house
like his goons grab her and he's saying
he's going to test the antidote for the
chemical compound on her um and when
he's taking her like to the lab they
walk past the room where he's been
keeping her and so she's like this is
the [ __ ] house that like I've grown
up going to camping trips on and you
were keeping me in a room in a basement
having me piss in a bucket
right like so it's like fully settling
in now like this man does not care for
her wellbeing yes yes yes yeah and he uh
they like shoot her up with the serum
with the antidote and they put her in an
airtight chamber then like release the
chemical oops just hit my mic sorry
Vance uh release the chemical agent into
the chamber with her and then suddenly
like bombs start going off and her dad's
like oh no
people are here and her dad takes off
again and just like leaves her in this
chamber yeah full of this chemical this
deadly chemical yes that she should
hypothetically be safe from because she
has been shot up with the antidote right
for it not anecdote for it which I feel
myself wanting to say antidote ant
Crest Crest
Trotter Trotter Trotter Trotter I don't
know why I got British about about it
I'm so
sorry
I whenever I used to like when I was in
like middle school and I'd be like
singing along to like I don't know
Fallout Boy like any like angsty plain
white
te yes all of that Middle School angst I
would always end up singing in a
British and I have no idea why but it's
like the Brits just feel angster or
they're like classier about their angst
maybe maybe that's what it is they're
classier they have boug
angst accents just make your angst
bouier yes I'm sorry could you say this
with an accent it would seem a little
less
sad I would listen better and care more
if you had an
accent uh when I was in grad school we
had a lot of international students
and one of my classmates was from St
Martin oh yeah and another classmate was
from Northern Ireland oh no oh no it was
the like I whenever we had classes
together and I was like can you just
read this entire textbook aloud to me I
would absorb this information so much
easier if I could if I could hear it
with your
accent I'll be a better student if you
read this to me because you're accent is
so soothing as I get through the
content because Jeremy from Nebraska
doesn't have the same effect I don't
actually think there was a Jeremy from
Nebraska I'm just I get it though I get
it yeah I'm like oh no please please
keep reading to me in nice accents it's
like listening to Jim Dale read uh cuz
he did all the Harry Potter oh yeah
audio books
right
so uh the bombs are going off her dad
escapes the uh the the bomb Setters
are Trotter Crest and Oscar um so it is
her people coming to rescue her and
apparently they'd had a Scrambler going
which so she hadn't been able to like
engage with Trot that I was going to ask
like why have we not just linked with
Trotter but I get it she'd been trying
and then this was why she found out that
she she hadn't been able to like Oscar's
also mad because he's like okay it's
like what all does your dad know and
she's like you should probably move my
mom and he's like so you saying like a
[ __ ] Canary sort of energy I'm like
it's my dad you didn't tell me he was
evil yeah like you let me find out on
the Fly that he's evil then when I'm
like but he's my dad and I want to I out
for like two or three weeks I held out
yes like hey Oscar yeah maybe [ __ ] off
you're not the best stepdad
around no so Oscar leaves and is
frustrated uh they do plan on keeping
her for observation just at the cabin
that night and they're like we don't
need to move her let's just like make
sure everything is is good then we'll
move her the next day one of the people
like the the med people who comes in to
check on her they're like oh like
there's already a room set up with a bed
uh that you can stay in and she's like
that's the room he was keeping me in and
then like trout like sees it and he's
like oh my God I'm going to kill him
like I can't believe he was keeping you
in that in that room but also she has an
actual bedroom because it's their like
family cabin she she grew up going to so
she goes up to her bedroom and then is
just looking around and like seeing all
of their family photos and like
everything through new eyes yes like
she's an artist and like that's like the
the eil and art supplies my dad bought
for me for me to have here and she just
like loses her [ __ ] well yeah cuz like
everything's tainted now 1,000% and so
she just starts
destroying everything in in the bedroom
um Trotter and Crest end up showing up
and they're like you can keep breaking
every single piece of furniture in here
you do what you need but like we're not
going to leave you alone we want you to
know like we're here if if you need us
but like you can keep breaking [ __ ]
that's fine um then they all cram into
her bed for the night the next day they
all plan to go to the safe house and
when they get there her mom is there and
when her mom like runs up to her and
grabs her and is like where is it like
we got to get it out of you and like
wants to like get the stinger out of her
and like their whole plan is
uh that they're her and her mom are
going to end up in a like they're going
to go to Colorado and start a new life
and like oh just separate from all this
I also forgot to say that before they
left the house the next
morning uh Kenny takes a can of gasoline
and pours it all over the entire house
and lights it sure lights it all up good
for her burns the entire house down yeah
I get
it do I I mean I understand it from like
an 18-year-old angst perspective given
her history and how out of pocket her
whole experience has been sure burn it
down babe I get it like it seems like
you really need this for closure yeah in
a way that I'm like I don't know if it's
actually going to provide you the
closure the closure you're looking for
no but it is cathartic in a way yeah you
could also maybe just
like write a letter to your dad then
burn that right um lock up the cabin and
let it fall into disrepair
like once again we had options we did
and we made choices we did yeah the
whole
time So the plan is for them to move to
Colorado and like just start their lives
over
of like their marriage will dissolve
because we need to go and start a new
life uh Kenny's not thrilled with this
plan this is not the plan she wanted
she's fully committed to the twins you
get it they've been inside her and her
mom is a bit judgmental not about the
Step Brothers portion I think about it
being
Brothers uh yeah I think that's more the
issue not even like more than one
partner she's like but they're Brothers
no I meant the plural in general okay
okay okay um so it's the more than one
partner yeah I think it is the more than
one partner like I think if it was just
Crest she'd been cool who can say right
we think maybe we'd be cooler when
you're like if it wasn't both your Step
Brothers I'd be fine with this okay so
if it's was just one step brother you'd
be fine with
it well the majority of PornHub agrees
like okay the bald and the Beautiful
they said it's
fine so the guys end up telling Kenny
that they're like hey we have a van
packed for all of us to go and we can
just pursue Joseph on our own our dad is
about like he's drinking on the couch
because he's very sad about what's going
on between him and your mom so he's
going to be drunk so he did actually
care about yes he was actually in love
with the mom and uh I think he was
pulling more of the it's an opportunity
for his cover to not get fully pulled
from the mission right so not that he
didn't care about her so now that the
cover is pretty much [ __ ] he can't
make that excuse anymore she's in
danger I think it's also the mom being
like I'm not going to put my daughter
through this and so we're going to go
like I'm going to leave you and we're
going to like start a new life and like
you because you put us in the situation
you're going to help us get there and
like I'm not really willing to reconcile
with you right right like I think in his
head he's like I still love her and
she's still my wife and I still want a
marriage um right and she's more like
yeah you put my daughter in danger in
situations she didn't need to be in and
I'm going to put her
first but also has she put her first
because to to Kenny's Point her mom knew
the whole time was like practically
catatonic after her dad passed away and
she was taking care of her 100% paying
all of the bills doing all of the
groceries assuming the entire parental
role within their relationship right so
now it's like okay so now you want to be
a mom like in the 11th
hour yeah but it's like in at one point
they're like well and at the end of the
book it's they're kind of like oh yeah
we talk every day I was like about what
like you see like your mom like you're
like she doesn't really accept that like
I like have two boyfriends but like we
like talk every day okay uh what this
isn't how these things work it's not no
um um and I think that is a frustrating
thing within this book and honestly
we're giving Mom way more time than she
actually is even in the [ __ ] book if
I'm being Hest like yeah she's very much
a side character but as I said
everything in this whole [ __ ] book is
underdeveloped so we're really creating
whatever narrative we want about how
this came because they didn't we don't
know because we don't know and they
didn't tell us it'll remain a mystery
yep so they uh Oscar gets drunk enough
he passes out they all end up sneaking
out the guys are telling her they that
they can't live without her sure um and
so even though they're all benched
they're going to pursue Joseph and that
they can't live without her so when they
get to the garage the van is filled with
all of the stuff that they need but then
also two like really slick motor cycles
are there and
so she's a big Moto girl I guess
okay once again [ __ ] underdeveloped
book I feel myself getting more annoyed
as we go I see it in your face yes uh
because I'm like it seemed you never
mentioned motorcycles until you went on
one to escape the Miguel situation with
ch I actually had that question I was
like has she ever been on a motorcycle
before [ __ ] Hannah she hasn't done
[ __ ] [ __ ] because riding a motorcycle
is not like riding a bike or like and
she's riding it with confidence and
maybe they address how she knows all of
that like at one point it's like and so
I like pushed the throttle and then
Trotter pushed the throttle and then I
said whoever like whichever one of us
gets to the exit first gets to be inside
me first and like I'm like Crest isn't
in the car so I'm racing for Crest
against like what yes it's like that's
the energy so they like race the
motorcycles to the airplane that
apparently Crest and Trotter are also
the pilots of obviously duh why wouldn't
cuz he's the techiestudios
the biggest Tech boy in all the land
yikes but she got to the exit first so
Crest gets first dib so Trotter is
flying the plane after they get it in
the air and
then Trotter not Trotter Crest gets to
Bone her and then she links in to trot
her so he can feel it we should distract
him while he's driving while he's flying
a plane okay I mean I do think when it's
in the air it should be autopilot
situation I was like short of turbulence
it should be pretty easy I don't know
anything about flying a plane you know
that's fair my dad had his pilot's
license at one point I don't know if he
still does I could ask him but it does
seem like the getting into the
air you got to pay more attention unless
like when you get in the air you're like
it's it's rough weather but I think if
it's just like blue
skies I don't know anyway she does
decide to distract him but I had the
same thought of is this really the
moment you're very nervous about flying
Maybe let the men in charge of your
safety focus
focus so they've now been on the run for
a few weeks they landed in Mexico and
kind of following leads and she's like
believe it or not it's harder to find
someone who doesn't want to be found
than you think like TV really makes it
look so
easy yes okay yes it does uh and so they
are they're either in Mexico or bise at
this point they're kind of like
following like working on the coast as
they're getting new leads and she's kind
of wondering like what will happen after
all of this and like when the mission is
finished like she'd always plan to go to
art school and like are Trotter and
Crest going to just stay working in the
field and like where does this leave all
of them and do they even want her after
this so she's kind of like not been
linking in with trod as much just
because she's wanted to like process her
own thoughts right but then trod is like
oh no is everything okay she's like
she's pulling away from me yeah so like
Crest goes down to the beach to check on
her and talk and touch base and then as
they're sitting and talking they hear an
engine like rev up and they're like
we're like in an isolated house that
like there are not a lot of roads by and
so they look out just in time like more
towards the water to see people coming
up with guns and like start shooting at
them so they start running to the house
and they the guys like lock her in the
bathroom and then while she's in the
bathroom um one of her dad's goons
breaks the window and comes in and is
trying to get her and he's like you
survived you're one of us you're special
you have the antidote sort of energy
like a weird cult situation not fully
one of
us anyway uh anyway
they he she tries to run off like she
like reaches for the bathroom door but
the guys that told her to stay in the
bathroom her dad's goon shoots her
through the hand and is like he like I
we I need to return you alive but like
some holes won't be a big deal or
something beg to differ Bud
yeah I'm forget exact it's all very
messy and very chaotic he he doesn't get
her through the bathroom window so like
he takes off and like she's safe with
the guys again and they're like
addressing her hand and making sure
she's okay and she passes at him when
she comes too they're like you passed
she's like oh no like did I have another
like chronic disease seizure and they're
like no you just you were shocked you
were shot in the hand like it it was a
through and through we like if we
patched it you'll be fine but like you
were shot you yeah that that's why that
one happened that would hurt so bad like
all the bones and ligaments like yeah
even though even though they were like
it's a straight through I'm like but you
use your hands a lot there so many bones
in there sorry you're not wrong the
guy's got her hand stitched up but they
also they didn't see the guy who like
the Goon who came into the bathroom who
she had recognized so they're just like
why are these guns for hire chasing us
who are which one of us are they here
for we don't know we got to move and
she's like I mean yeah like we need to
move but also like it's my dad yeah
they're here for me they're here for me
I am the the main event here and so they
move on to the next place and just like
try and keep a even lower profile and
like at one point she's like sleeping on
the floor of the shack that they're
staying in but she's like I'm not going
to the guy said that we could stay in a
nicer place but I'm not going to
jeopardize their safety for me and so if
this is the way they do missions then
this is how we'll do missions Okie
doie
fine like it's the for me fine the
begrudging acceptance of I guess yeah
this is where we are yeah
yeah so as this is continuing they
finally get another lead they get
confirmation they're like we have P like
pictures of Joseph here within the last
couple of hours and he's planning on
meeting with Riley so the deal is still
planning to go
through and at this point Kenny's just
like so blinded by her like rage and
hatred for her dad that she's like he
needs to be killed he needs to be
stopped no matter what I don't care that
he's my dad I I hate him sort of energy
and so she's like you need to like get
back in the game and like resume your
second and command positions like see if
you can like get back in and he's like I
don't really know and she's like that's
like what we need to have happen here
I'm 18 I've never done undercover work
before but I feel very confident that
this is the
way well and also what but like his
Inn was Rosa so like the girl he was
[ __ ] guess like I think her Rose's
brother is Riley I think was what it was
so like that was his Inn and so Trotter
like I think this scene annoyed me
because it seems like at least how it's
written Kenny doesn't realize what she's
asking trod to do she's saying get back
in there get us the info we need by any
means and Trotter is like I care about
you enough that I'm willing to do this
but like I don't want to well also the
fact that
like he's
like it's his body that he's now like
giving over in a sexual capacity right
that like not just like the I don't want
to but like just like the bodily consent
right of it right um adds an extra layer
of like uh yeah so Trotter does it but
like kind of like shuts Kenny out right
um but then he links
in as he's [ __ ] Rosa oh tro and he
like tells Kenny's like go look in the
mirror and so
like he in the mirror the reflection
that she's seeing back that is him is
like Rosa's on the counter so it's like
her back like Rosa's back and she's like
making eye contact with Trotter like
over his shoulder she's making eye
contact with K and then she's kind of
like like what's happening he's like you
asked me to do this like don't get shy
now and like wants her to watch but then
like she's kind of getting into it
because like she's getting aroused so
she ends up like tagging in Crest then
tells Crest to [ __ ] her from behind
while she looks in the mirror then her
and trout had these like Mutual orgasms
where they're just kind of using
everyone
yeah yeah like it's messy and like
doesn't feel good yeah like why
yeah and so then when like Trotter like
gets back to the house she pushes him
against the wall and holds a knife to
his throat and is like if you ever like
[ __ ] do that again like I'll make
sure you you can't use your balls
anymore doie and he's like don't pretend
you didn't like it like we both know
better and he's also like I was like I
like couldn't get hard when she put her
hands in my pants cuz like it wasn't her
eyes I want it was your like that's very
much energy but like when he's like
giving this very like don't pretend you
didn't like it we both know better she
like stabs him in the thigh with the
knife intentionally okay cuz she's upset
and like don't do it again stabs him in
the [ __ ] thigh with the knife and
then she's like I felt violated that
like you were like controlling my body
that way and like not giving me a choice
and he's kind of like Uno reverse babe
W yeah yeah and but then he's like don't
claim emotions that like aren't
yours something like that where you're
like what like this is the most juvenile
like trer you could have just explained
to her on the front end what she was
asking require now I hit my mic sorry
Dan uh yeah I'm like we could have just
like used our communication skills at
any point in time and not end it up
through the whole book we could have
told from the beginning about the whole
situation yes that it was her dad like
like we could have just locked our
bedroom door it down from the beginning
if Crest had just locked his door we'd
never be having this
conversation so within all of this
heightened emotions like Trotter like
goes to the bathroom and like Kenny's
like go go stitches like up clean them
up I need some fresh air so she goes
outside to get some fresh air and has an
episode passes
out so she passes out and then when she
comes too she's been kidnapped I was
going to say she gets kidnapped again
because her dad had a Tracker in her
apparently sure yeah something like that
someone had a Tracker in her who the
[ __ ] knows not me the Stinger's a track
tracker right well cuz like the Joseph
and his goons like cut the tracker out
of her that I'm like okay Crest had a
Tracker but how did you find her did you
also have a Tracker none of
it none of it really matters sure is
that the end she wakes up
kidnapped no that's not the full end
it's just oh okay uh I did shut my phone
I was like oh okay so she wakes upid
aggressive end to the book um so Joseph
is now planning on selling the chemical
and her as the antidote like because she
has the antidote okay but I'm like but
it seemed how you described it before
you were just testing the antidote on
her and now you're selling her as the
person that she is the antidote that it
needs to be like siphoned from her right
something of that capacity so sure the
cars roll up um but it's not Riley it's
the guys and they start
shooting I I don't know it all ends
well the guys [ __ ] her at the same time
they win the shootout they win the
shootout sexy times in
Sue yeah and then they like aren't
they're like in trouble because they
stole government resources to go on the
run and track down uh terrorist but then
they're also not in trouble because they
beat the terrorist sure and destroyed
the the k IAL compound
situation and so she's like I don't know
what's going to happen next my mom and
stepdad Oscar are sailing around the
coast of Mexico right now I'm going to
go to art
school and like that's literally like
where it ends there's double
penetration she's like all right there's
double penetration yeah like the big
like solidifying sex scene there's
double penetration the guys like I think
they like get her her own motorcycle
they all have matching motorcycles at
the end something like
that whatever it happened okay
okay
so my only remaining question is like
what is our rating scale for this
because it's so messy is it
motorcycles is it
Stingers is it
borms I think motorcycles yeah feels
safe
sure
um I don't know how many motorcycles
Hannah I don't know out of three
motorcycles I was going to say three for
three of them but then I was like
oh is it like one wheel because you
really did not like this I was going to
say like half a
motorcycle half of one
motorcycle
okay yeah like like like there's an
butel or front in half oh top and bottom
okay
okay but also maybe just like the front
half of the motorcycle handlebars got
it speaking of uh when we're like yeah
things when you're like 18 that you
think are like silly or funny or territ
like just like dude things I
remember there was a Starbucks that my
whole group of friends used to hang out
at and it was always like youd like
drive past and whoever was there You'
just like Park and like hang out for a
little bit and I remember walking up
with pigtails one day and this like
19-year-old guy just looked at me and
went
handlebars
nice in just a way that only a
19-year-old will ever say that with
confidence oh my God
the things you look back on you're like
what the [ __ ]
yeah so uh one of I don't think that guy
lived past 21 if you're just going
around saying [ __ ] like that you know
what he did he I mean I'm glad he did
but that's well he actually got married
had three children oh living a wonderful
good for you live a beautiful life
he probably doesn't want to be known as
handlebar guy no and
honestly there are people that I would
drag like that and call handlebar guy
for the rest of our our time moving
forward he's not like he's one of those
dudes that you like look back and like
I'm sure he looks back and he's like
what the [ __ ] was that thing he a 19y
not my best moment so much cringe yeah
yeah yeah yeah so I'm I'm not even going
to give him that that title moving
forward H he is not the Florida person
who deserves that title moving forward
you know I do know okay so yeah like
half half a motorcycle half of one
motorcycle is uh my out of
three I think the thing that really
bummed me out is from the
description this book seemed like it was
going to be so cool or could be so cool
when you were telling me about it I was
like okay okay yeah and I think that was
before you even read it you just told me
that you found it yeah yeah and so I
like reading it I was like man I see
what we were going for but I also just
like we missed it yeah yeah so like if
we could rework it a little bit and try
again I would probably thoroughly enjoy
it but like at some point it seems like
like the mid chapter breaks where it's
not it's not the next chapter but
there's a scene change and there's like
the where you'll put a little dash line
or something or have something
yes to designate um it seemed like at
some point they just stopped putting the
extra space cuz I'm like we went from
one scene to
another with no warning yes they're
eating pizza and in the next scene she's
like trying to like get his gun away
from him as like Trotter's training her
like like wait what how they were
literally eating pizza and you're like
pizza
into and you're like what is happening
like that happened
lot so it wasn't even like that the
story was a struggle it's that the way
that it was written was a struggle
that's kind I'd say both were a struggle
well I'm saying not only and yes both
and yes I would say it's a both and
situation like I think uh the editing
and there were some things where I'm
like we were like we got gender pronouns
wrong oh in a way that I'm like there's
no one to miss gender you just like
didn't double check it so like those
things so I think the kind of reactive
communication that they had plus
the lack of editing the chaotic yeah
like I wanted I wanted to be into this
one so much and I'm bummed that I'm not
yeah so one one motor one half of a
motor half of one
motorcycle and eloquent too like we're
doing a really good job today yeah on
all fr big eloquent girly over here what
I've known for um okay
one nope not one
half of a motorcycle out of three I
think when we got on handlebars I was
about to just say one set of handlebars
and I was like no mo more motorcycle
than that well now I have the song
handlebar stuck in my head and I'm
having a really hard time yeah yeah oh
my gosh all right half of one motorcycle
half of one of three motorcycles is our
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