EP 71: Seeing Double by Lacie Chanel

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People you know what time it

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between gather around get you something

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your hosts Chelsea and

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Hannah hey everybody and welcome to SM

club I'm Hannah and I'm Chelsea and this

is the podcast where we are two licensed

mental health therapist who sometimes

daydrink sometimes don't today is

definitely a day drinking day yep um

while we review romance novels of

varying caliber nailed it yeah look at

us really good that has kind of become

our unintentional elevator pitch but

like it works it does work I'm like okay

if someone has a better way to describe

what we're doing

here let us know we're happy to update

the pitch sure yeah um okay but before

we actually get into today's book we

have our first ever Corrections Corner

correction Corrections Club because

we're smart Club is it sure we're we're

making this up on the Fly Cor

subcommittee

or sub Club but that feels that sounds

either like BSM issue or like a Publix

sub sandwich Enthusiast

honestly it we are from Florida and we

are and Pub Subs is part of the culture

to be clear and like it was an integral

part of my childhood yeah we could call

it the sub Club Pub Club but I don't

think anyone will know that we're here

to do correction

probably not um and for the record I

recognize there are a lot of things that

we probably need to correct and words

that we have mispronounced and things of

that capacity this one however is

specific to a book that we reviewed back

um in either June or July I think called

not so lucky by

trilina uh so trilina the queen that she

is we love trilina trilina listen to the

episode and then let me know much like

the whole historic Weasley twin debacle

that I you'll just have to listen to

former episodes uh I may have been

reading a little too quickly and missed

a couple of words because there was a

sex scene in not so lucky where I

thought the there were like three males

and one female and I thought that they

were holding her legs and she was like

doing like essentially like a k [ __ ]

situation um and trilina was like y'all

that's not what happened her feet were

on the ground she was lifted to her feet

not by her

feet so my bad on that one and shout out

to Trina for giving us that Insight yes

um cuz we spent a while on that in the

episode I feel like because we were both

so

concerned like Amazed by the arm

strength and sitting there like wow they

spent a while on this that Chelsea just

like legit

misread so that was the uh first

official sub Club Pub

sub yep sure the thing is the next time

we have an official Corrections corner

I'm probably not going to remember that

we tried naming it we're going to name

it something else we're just going to

it's going to be much like our our uh

rating system it's going to be different

every time like we should just own that

but if you have suggestions for what we

should call the corrections committee uh

holl at your girls because clearly the

options that we've come up with today

leave some to be desired sure sure we

could do better

um but I would like to leave Corrections

corner for real Corrections like that

and not Corrections where it's just like

hey Chelsea you keep

mispronouncing these words cuz that's

really just me trying my best with a

decent amount of alcohol sure sure um

but I do get it and you know feel free

to correct me if you need to I walk it

back noted and understood well I was

just thinking if there's something I'm

like consistently mispronouncing sure

like yeah let me know like on uh I

remember on my favorite murder they kept

saying Appalachia oh yeah yeah and

people were like

respectfully Appalachia yeah if you keep

saying Appalachia I'm going throw an

Pacha I need you to stop right that's

good uh so if there's something like

that yes please please let me know if

it's like when I said everybody gets a

blow job I don't think that needs to be

in the corrections

corner you know share whatever

Corrections you feel you would like to

and then maybe the subcommittee can

determine the pub subc commmittee yeah

my God I wonder if we can door Dash Pub

Subs anyway probably there are like two

Publix is less than 10 minutes from my

house that is for after the show that is

the postrecording

reward for today I like that the actual

book that we are reviewing today is

called seeing double okay it's

by clear we're starting off Lacy Chanel

or Lacy shant well

it's like even like the like about the

author has both listed and Lacy is

spelled

differently interesting yeah so we we

made some choices there but yeah Lacy

chenel Lacy Chanel and when it's Chanel

and not Shantel or whatever it was

because maybe I'm wrong on that as well

Lacy spelled l a c i e okay and then in

Lacy Shantel it's spelled l a y okay yes

so h we made some choices um we open

with Kenny Kenny is an 18-year-old girl

um she's getting ready to go to a party

with her boyfriend Jonas Jonah something

he's really not relevant to anything

that happens in this book um he's just a

really useful plot tool at at the

beginning of the story and is he a tool

he is a a bit of a tool yes so Kenny's

uh her dad died in a like school

shooting like two years ago her mom is

now remarried and married a man with

money in a way that like Kenny is not

used to having money and she's like I'm

used to like fishing trips with my dad

and like this is a far bougier lifestyle

than I grew up with and she has a

stepbrother as well his name is

Crest okay

Crest Crest okay I don't know I'm having

a difficult time with Crest and I don't

know if it's because of the way that you

chose to pronounce it or the the name

itself you like hey Chelsea my issue is

actually not with the content at all

it's a it's just with how you pronounced

his name you just did it with so much

intention Crest I kind okay can you say

Crest without intention because I feel

like every part of it is a very

crisp crisp crest

I feel like that should be part of a

vocal warmup somewhere crisp Crest

Timothy

shalam you're uh making me think of like

being in Middle School choir oh yeah

yeah yeah yeah but also sometimes when I

think about Middle School qu like

whenever I think of my middle school

like Arts

teachers they were always very reactive

people they're different they're

different like I my like middle school

art teacher I remember we pissed her off

so much when class she like locked

herself in her Supply closet and I was

like even as like a middle schooler I

think I was in eighth grade I like you

just left a room of 13 year olds

unattended because someone hurt your

feelings but like we're using Sharp

Tools and like it's not watercolor Day

[ __ ] get back out here process that

later my God yeah and I remember my like

choir teacher it seemed like she'd be

like I'm having a bad arthritis day and

just put on like a Red Hot Chili Peppers

documentary sort of energy mine put on

Sister Act One Time which was probably

our best class to be honest

1,000% did she not do Sister Act to that

one actually has all of the students no

she did Sister Act Two yeah no you're

right well I was going to say Sister Act

One feels like a slightly more

daring actually I like they I like they

both have choirs so I see how we get

there but at the same time I do feel

like if you're showing one in school

Sister Act 2 is prob yeah the the

slightly

safer option okay so

anyway

yeah like a

toothpaste Crest I got it I'm on board

now well with how much I pronounced it I

think we know that it's spelled like the

toothpaste

uh-huh so uh Kenny goes to this party

with her boyfriend and as she's like

making a drink she sees like Crest walk

in the kitchen and she's like why is he

at this party he wasn't really invited

she goes to like join up with her

boyfriend and she sees him like buying

Coke and like snorting it at the table

and she's like you

know I'm not really about that

and so she decides to bounce and call an

Uber and like the boyfriend Falls her

outside and he's like no one leaves

Jonas behind like sort of like G yeah I

will say a lot of the dialogue in this

book feels a little one-dimensional in

that way where it's like this is what

someone would say in this situation

right and you're like would they Jonas

feels like he's modeled after like the

main villain in a 80s movie like nobody

leaves Jonas behind yes like okay yeah

and you're like okay Jonas go back to

doing your Coke I'm just going to leave

now and so she does she like takes an

Uber home but when she gets back to the

house she sees that uh like crest's

bedroom door is normally locked and it's

cracked open and she's like you know

I've like never seen in his room and

he's at the party and I like want to I'm

curious and I want to see space so she

decides to Snoop and goes into his room

and like sees a lot of tech gear in a

way that she's like what this is this is

more than just a normal bedroom and she

like clicks on the one of the screens

and suddenly like Crest is looking back

at her uh but he's wearing different

clothes than he was wearing at the party

and she's like what sort of tech is this

right uh and like it it clicks back off

and she kind of keeps looking around and

snooping she also knows she shouldn't be

there and is like getting really

flustered uh

there she's like gets a little

disoriented and she's like I taste blood

in my mouth oh no it happened again like

it I told my mom it hadn't happened in a

while and you're like what is happening

I don't really know we like lost time

she's a bit of a poor historian she's

also 18 and this book very much reads

like you have an 18-year-old heroine

like not all synapses are firing as one

would hope right um which we will wrap

into a chronic medical condition later

oh okay but also so we're planting the

seeds that like there's more going on

1,000% when she's trying to leave she

goes like through another door and it's

because she's apparently disort I'm like

how many [ __ ] doors does he have in

his bedroom it really can't be that many

for you to be lost right but she goes

into like a second tech

room and it's like there's a room and

something that looks like a microwave in

the center and then like something dings

in the room she opens it and it fills

with like I don't just very over-the-top

dramatic but she picks up what she

thinks is a silver pen and she's like

what's this yeah why is this pen so

important and she like tries to write

with it and like she's like he made a

pen and it's a shitty pen at that it

doesn't even work but then the pin

starts moving and like slithering up her

body and she like can't get it off of

her and she's like starting to freak out

it like it like goes under the sleeve of

her dress um do you remember the mummy

of of course yeah the Cinematic

Masterpiece of 1999 Brandon Frasier and

rer wise and all their Glory I know why

Weiss I think okay yeah um did you know

that their son in the sequel was

actually uh in the running to play Harry

Potter and he turned out like he dropped

out because he was so obsessed with the

mummy and apparently knew so much trivia

that they would like ask him to make

sure that like there was continuity of

the story line right yeah I always found

that to be a very endearing but yeah the

Cinematic Masterpiece well you remember

like when the bugs go under the SK like

that's what I'm like imagining here and

so Crest comes in and like sees what's

happening and he's back in the clothes

that he was wearing at the party uh that

she was at and he comes over to help and

like pulls her hair back when he like

sees where it is and he's like [ __ ] and

right as he's like oh no she experiences

excruciating pain and passes out sure as

one does yeah right yeah if I had a

nickel for every time I went to a party

and that's how it

ended with some guy pulling your hair

and you passing

out yes

some and as the mystery Tech implanted

itself within my person oh that part not

the other part I got you okay yeah the

number of nickels I have very depending

on what part we're depending on context

if it's the tech

part so many nickel I was going to say

no nickel and you're like at least 20

nickel

yeah all the

Nick you know okay so when Kenny comes

to

she like is having a little bit of like

double vision and it almost seems like

there's like an overlay and she's like

what is happening and she sees Crest

again but it's like Crest dressed up in

the fancy clothes and she's like but you

were just wearing the normal clothes

when you came in here and so we we learn

as Crest explains her here in this

moment that she accidentally inserted

inserted herself with a they call this

Tech the stinger and so the

Stinger attached itself to her like

brain stem and spinal cord and it allows

you to share all five senses with

someone who also has the

Stinger in them so Crest has a secret

twin

brother named Trotter I was just really

trying to over pronounce it his name is

Trotter Crest and

Trotter and at one point she asks if

those are their like code names and and

Crest says yes and then like at the very

end of the book she's like wait what are

your real names he's like oh I was just

being sassy so apparently their names

are Crest and TR there's no shade name

your children what you want

sure well I'm just thinking

about I'm like okay it's a real missed

opportunity for

Trotter because in the gay community you

have otter and all I can think about is

if he were Trotter the otter he would

clean up

you would be like well known I think you

could write that book I could write that

book not well so I won't well but I

think we've recorded enough episodes to

know someone else will write it not well

so we may as well get your version

too that's an excellent point

yeah also I'll file that away you can't

get better at the craft if you don't

practice it a thank you that's so

inspiring I watch a lot of Boss baby

excellent there's a scene in Boss baby

where like the brothers are like riding

the their bike and the baby who's the

boss sure Alec Baldwin is like trying to

give him

directions but like not real directions

he's just saying like work inspirational

quotes so like that you find on a poster

yeah where it's like aim for failure and

you and you'll always succeed and

they're like what and he's like aim away

from failure and he's like that's not

actual

directions I need a left or right yes

left or right also I'm a child riding a

bike maybe I need other instructions as

a whole here yeah so we learned that

Trotter has the other device and so

Trotter is

undercover uh he's a secret agent

they're all secret agents obviously

Crest is like The Tech Guy secret agent

and then Trotter his twin his secret

twin brother is the one who does the

field work

okay um so Trotter and Kenny can now

like share all five

senses and like link into each other H

yeah so it's not like all the time it

has to be intentional they're

intentionally sharing yeah but she like

doesn't know how to control it yet right

um so Trotter can like click in and like

click off but Kenny's a little bit more

like Trot you here

you there God it's me Margaret yes and

I'm like just shouting for him I don't

think is is the secret to she I mean she

figures it out throughout the book but

yeah that that's where we start for

sure um their dad is Oscar obviously

that's the uh Kenny's stepdad okay and

he's also involved in all of this which

you think he has to be because like you

you got to know you have twins right I

was going to say like you would know

that your other kid is not there and

hasn't been for two years yes right well

I don't know if it's they've been

together a whole two years so I will her

dad died two years ago I don't know how

long they've been remarried I got you I

got you um not that that really matters

in in the long run

but does does any of it does anything

matter in the long run you tell

me we about to get into a

therapeutic for me the answer is

generally no like it's just not that

deep honestly isn't life easier when

you're like it's not that deep so much

easier like what freeing words to live

by I

know

um yeah so they're all on

assignment when Oscar went undercover

and was like on a mission he met Kenny's

mom at some event um and then like

convinced the powers that be that it

would be a good opportunity for his

cover

and uh Kenny's like asking CR like I

don't like how is my mom a good

opportunity for his cover and he's like

we're hunting a really bad man that's

all you really need to know right now

like you don't need more details is it

her dad I don't know

sorry like it came out of my mouth and

then I was like

Hannah that might be the very obvious

plot twist that we all saw coming

who can say what what so your hand

tightened a little bit as you

went and it looked a little more sexual

than I think you realized and I and then

I'm glad that I could just make sure

everyone knew

that look like I was going to bring my

hand up to my mouth and then I didn't

and so I

just you just brought it halfway and

closed your fist

[Laughter]

oh my God okay uh we're doing a really

good job okay so we're hunting a bad man

who may or may not be Kenny's

dad yeah you get it so the next morning

Kenny wakes up and Trotter's already

like linked in and he's making jokes

like she's like looking down and like

sees that she's wearing Crest clothes

and like tr's like oh like is like this

what I have to look forward to in the

mornings like I was hoping you'd be

wearing a little less right sort of

energy um Oscar and Crest tell Kenny

that they're all going on a mission

because she has the Stinger in her head

so she's now part of the team oh

congratulations buddy yeah so you know

nothing like an 18-year-old with no real

experience who just gets some tech in

their head to become part of the super

secret spy team how old are Crest and

Trotter

I want to say early to mid 20s

okay because that feels right in my

heart I don't

know fair enough I don't know if I have

the numbers to back that up fair enough

I mean I'm comfortable with that that

feels accurate for for this situation

yeah they're not as young as her they're

her older stepb brothers right but I'm

yeah I'd say early to mid 20s Final

Answer could be wrong I don't give a

[ __ ] if I am I'm not putting it in the

pub sub

Club okay so they're all going to Italy

on this Mission uh they're telling

Kenny's mom that they're all going on a

bonding trip to go fishing on their

yacht and Oscar's like yeah I'm just

going to like send your mom to the spa

it'll be chill don't you

worry and so we all just accept it sure

okay I'm I'm accepting

yes uh Trotter TAPS in like when she's

showering and so she like looks up so he

like can't see her vision and see and

he's like what are you what are you

doing do you do you need to look down

sort of energy uh but he's telling her

the the plan for the deal that's going

to go down when they get to Italy and

tells her to relay it to Crest and Oscar

and he starts uh I know we always talk

about how soon the nicknames start right

yeah uh so this the the nickname is

about to start for Trotter it's pigeon

and he calls her pigeon the entire book

cuz she's his personal carrier pigeon

unfortunate yeah and then like later on

like they'll like Be In the Heat of the

Moment and he'll be that's right little

bird like I just I mean little bird

feels better than pigeon yeah but I

think it's because pigeon was already

used too many sentences in a row so they

had to change it up with the little bird

more of that sort of I do agree little

bird is

objectively sexier than pigeon it feels

less derogatory like not that pigeon is

derogatory but I'm just like you know

they're carriers of disease and they're

kind of well then

Crest sets her P like gets her a pass uh

passport and gives her a code name and

so he calls her Everest

because it's one of the most beautiful

sites in the world or so p pig so we

have two ends of the spectrum here

pigeon and Everest why are you like

she's got both hands holding her head in

distress okay the Everest pigeon it's

like the males Falcon only

different the American

Eagle that

no I was thinking never mind this film

Noir is a whole thing with the mald

Falcon but oh yeah that is a thing I

know nothing about it's not really

relevant to anything but it's like in

the 40s and 50s there were like film

Noir became more popular and there's a

whole thing about a males Falcon and

everybody's it's like the Holy Grail

almost everybody's looking for the mald

Falcon so I thought of

it fascinating the other thing I was

thinking about is in um Flash Gordon

they have these uh worms or something

they're like all over somebody this is

in like 1959 or something these worms

everywhere and this one chick keeps

going not the poor worms and like

rubbing all over herself trying to get

the worms off of her and that's all I

could think about when you were talking

about this thing embedding under her

skin I was like not the B worms but I

knew you wouldn't know what that meant

you are right you not the poor not the

poor I think my favorite is the tone and

the Motions in which you

used to depict it well if you liked that

you should check out uh the bald and the

Beautiful when TS Madison is on because

she does an incredible impression of it

it's just all

boobs the bald and the Beautiful yeah I

canceled my PornHub subscription

it's Trixie Mattel and K's

podcast I'm learning so many things I

know nothing about oh my

God okay so we're do I need to start an

only

fans it's going to be fairy

Niche not the B

worms I was

it's just going to be called I'm

starting to only offense called the bald

and the

Beautiful I feel like if it became

popular Trixie Mattel and Kata would

have issues with

it

probably yeah also well oo I almost said

neither of us are bald then I went

well so sorry that that see that was the

whole joke about

pornub was out anyone's head

oh my God okay so they're on the flight

to Italy sure we're in Italy okay and

well so on the flight there Oscar is

like getting annoyed because he wants

Kenny to like Link in and be able to

like engage and talk to Trotter and get

more info and she's just really

struggling and he's like really being a

dick about it and is just like you need

to figure this out like this is

unacceptable you wanted to be on this

Mission and just kind of like storms off

and then Crest is like looking at Kenny

and he's like it took Trotter months to

be able to figure out how to do that

like he's stressed he's not being fair

like don't don't take it to heart and

Kenny's like why do you call him Oscar

instead of dad and he's like well

because he's always been more of a

Handler than a dad and like right how

our relationship is been and he's never

really like done the dad things and

Kenny's like you know I get that like my

dad did all of those things and if you

didn't have those I I understand the the

struggle right the disconnect mhm and

then like Crest like rest her head on

his lap and like get some sleep before

we get to Italy and it's kind of

a yeah I guess it's sweet enough

whatever she wakes up and is very

horny okay I believe they're still on

the flight uh and she's all like limbs

are Tangled with Crest and they're all

kind of like wrapped up but she's

realizing She's Horny because she's like

linked into Trotter and he's about to

get some dick no not some dick he's

about to lay pipe that's the wording

there it is I haven't even had that much

wine you haven't no I need more for this

book yeah well I put about to get [ __ ]

down and then I realized he's doing the

[ __ ] he's doing the [ __ ] silly

goose f a nickel for every time I use

the wrong word to describe a sexual

encounter I would have several nickels

after I was going to say at least two

per

episode I was trying to give you so much

more you really

were honestly I should probably give

myself more more credit cuz I'm like I'm

[ __ ] up those words every episode and

you're like hey Chelsea there was that

one time you said everybody gets a

[ __ ] but I was also for the record

hand I don't think you've ever said this

I was going to say everybody gets

conolingus a blow which is also wrong if

Rihanna can say everyone gets a [ __ ]

so can I yes you can you're basically

Rihanna you nailed

[Music]

it okay well that felt

hurtful yes you can Chelsea you're like

a little Rihanna in training you say it

oh no uh but then Trotter's like pigeon

the [ __ ] are you doing here and she's

like I don't know and he I just woke up

yeah and he's like you're the one who

like established that link like that one

wasn't me but he does cut it off well

that's nice of him to do yes very kind

yes benevolent fellow that that Trotter

they get to Italy and they're telling uh

Kenny that she's going to be extra eyes

at the gala where one of the big

meetings is going down uh and like

Trout's annoyed on her behalf because

he's like you have no training right

this feels very unsafe yes to put an

18-year-old girl with no training into a

potentially risky situation and he is

like can feel her anxiety and like feel

her like getting stressed out as they're

sharing senses so he's like control your

thoughts like cuz he can feel all of

those physical changes within her um but

also he can feel the physical changes

within her when she's like looking over

at Crest and like getting a little

tingly he's very

hot tr's like oh okay well if he's hot

I'm hot twins yes feel that too nailed

it uh they she's getting ready for the

gala she ends up kissing Crest before

she goes I don't know it's all a little

messy sure the whole thing is she asks

like what like the mission objectives

are and they're like you don't need to

worry about that you're just there to be

eyes in the room I would be so mad if I

were

her yeah

personally but I feel like here's the

thing I feel like she gets mad on this

book but it's often at like the wrong

thing in those moments right yeah

whatever okay going further because I

could just go on so many side tangents

with this at the gala she's wandering

This creepy dude named Drake comes up to

her and is

uh like oh you're like the most

beautiful woman in the room sort of

energy and she's like it does that

normally work and he's like well what

normally works is when I tell women that

I have a private jet in an island and we

can fly there tomorrow and she's like

ick yeah she's like I'm not really

impressed you have anything else to

offer and I'm like good for you girl so

she excuses herself to like use the

bathroom and try and get away from Drake

uh but she does also like see Trotter

and he's at the gala and he has eyes on

her as like Drake is talking to her like

she can like feel his jealousy through

their link right so she excuses herself

to use the

bathroom and then the target arrives to

the event but her view is blocked and

she can't see them at all and so she's

trying to follow and like do what she

thinks she's supposed to do and like

Drake ends up following her and then is

like very handsy and he blocks the

door and it's just like one of continued

like messy situation um right highly

avoidable messy situation yes that as

well yeah everything in this book feels

avoidable yeah lock your door crest

yeah very simple solution from the jump

which he does say at the end of the book

like at some point he's like yeah the

only reason my my door was unlocked was

because I was in a rush to like follow

you to the party to like make sure you

were safe sort of like everything but

even at that I'm like okay even if he

didn't lock the door we have so many

different choices we we could have made

at any point you didn't need to take

Kenny to Italy she can link into him

from wherever mhm so if you already have

eyes and ears in a situation cuz Trotter

is there does it really [ __ ] matter

where she is cuz she's not a trained

field agent she's an 18-year-old

girl I think we can tell how I felt a

little bit I am picking it up the

exasperation yes the exasperation she uh

it's like consumed by Trotter's rage

because they're LinkedIn as Dr is all of

this and like kind of like is fueled by

Trotter's rage to like KNE Drake and the

balls and then bolts um she's kind of

aimlessly wandering in her Panic of like

what of the almost that just happened

and um an a door opens and like Crest

pulls her in real fast and it's like

making sure she's safe and he like takes

her back to the surveillance van where

then she spends the next few hours

LinkedIn and Rel laying the info from

trod which is what she should have

[ __ ] been doing the whole time if you

ask meh MH yeah I'm like oh the more

logical solution that was at in front of

us this entire time

right so yeah she's just sitting in the

van now listening to Trotter and we do

learn here that the target is a biot

terrorist who like wants to release a

chemical agent in the air that can like

decimate several square miles but like

the chem the chemical hasn't been made

yet

that's part of the whole deal right so

they're trying to prevent it from even

being created yeah okay uh but also

because she's LinkedIn and Drake is like

at this meeting that Trotter's in about

this deal she's like trod like

intentionally like spills his drink all

over Drake he trips and she finds that

very endearing because I you know I

guess it was I guess it was indeed in

hearing I'll give him that

they this book oh I

just this whole book is very reactive

and I also

think maybe they only paid someone to

edit the first half of it and so it just

gets even more convoluted but then I

feel like as I'm trying to communicate

it my my communication is convoluted

because it's convoluted but then I'm in

my head cuz I'm like is this just a

trilina pooi situation where I misread

half of it so it's not actually

convoluted and this is all just user

error so as they're in the van they're

getting a little bit closer and uh like

Crest is saying like he wants to kill

Drake and like Kenny's like yeah I felt

Trotter almost like go after him while

we were there and as Crest and Kenny are

just getting closer in the van and kind

of having this moment she's like Trotter

is like Linked In like he can feel and

like he's very aware of all of this and

Crest is like he can leave if he

wants and then he fingers her in the van

yeah and Trotter's like encouraging her

like through the link he's like yeah

ride his fingers sort of energy okay and

they're like very Territorial and

they're like nobody gets to touch you

but us you're ours now

okay what I feel like that escalated

with swiftness

yeah the step brother she's lived with

for years who apparently has just I

guess had a secret crush on her or

thought she was attractive and is trying

to keep her safe yeah you know I call I

guess I would call that a secret crush

and then he has a twin

brother and then she accidentally

inserts a stinger AO into her person and

now they're like you're ours and no one

can touch you but us

what she's like just trying to get

off and now they're like I think she's

here for the possessiveness I yeah I

mean at

18 I feel

like I did not fully comprehend like

that that's not

cute yeah you know and to be fair I

could see my husband saying nobody

touches you but me and like yeah that

feels like the appropriate time to say

that right because we're married because

we have a legally

binding

agreement I signed the paper that said

that you're correct yeah right yeah um

and also if you sign the paper and you

have a different Dynam dynamic in your

marriage then more power to you but the

uh just like territorial jealousy that

you think is like sexy and cool when

you're young and you're I'm like

no yeah no not all about that life I was

once at a 19-year-old's wedding

reception yep uh and

the it was like a family wedding

reception and we were like I don't even

know how we got there we weren't family

uh but we were there and like one of the

family friends that like the 18-year-old

bride had kissed when she was like 13

and like had a crush on when she was

younger he was there and the 19-year-old

groom had recently graduated from basic

training and is like should I like lifts

his shirt and like had a firearm on him

and he's like should I prove a point no

no you [ __ ] shouldn't prove a

point as I'm sure you'll be shocked to

hear that couple's no longer

married but yeah just I'm like what is

this like

19-year-old

Macho it does doesn't read how you think

it reads well it's that whole thing of

like you know so many people now want to

be like the alpha or whatever but truly

like we've had this discussion before a

real Alpha does not go around picking

fights because they don't need to

like yes that's not what an alpha is

about it's about taking care of people

and showing up for them and meeting

their needs you're like making sure

everyone there is safe right yeah like

unless you have a fanny with Band-Aids

and Neosporin and juice boxes and snacks

you're not an

alpha okay so all soccer moms are alphas

it doesn't have to be a fanny pack it

could be a messenger bag or cargo shorts

for all I care unless unless you have a

styrofoam cooler filled with orange

slices you are not an

alpha exactly you get

it I okay so most Alphas are just at

like family

Parks or sporting events yes yes no

other Alphas outside

of if the love doesn't come with

Neosporin and orange slices I don't want

it okay so they're really territorial

yeah um but it's also kind of back to

business as usual after that happens uh

and oh because she like they turn their

comms back on and Oscar is talking to

them and like talking about getting back

to the hotel um

and something comes up like about like

Kenny asks about crest's Mom and Crest

just like kind of shuts down and doesn't

respond and she's like oh he like

doesn't want to talk to me um and then

like really doesn't say anything to her

the whole time they like go back to the

hotel uh they they go to their separate

rooms and she's just feeling super

agitated and I guess since her dad

passed away uh we

don't this this will come up in a second

uh she really struggles with panic

attacks and anxiety and so running has

been very helpful and it's her like

primary coping skill um and so she's

like I think I'll go on a run but when

she opens the door there's like a guard

outside of it being like you can't leave

your room you need to stay here for your

safety she's like oh well like can you

go tell Oscar I wanted to talk to him

and then as soon as he like goes inside

Oscar's room she bolts and is going on a

run cuz she's 18 she has limited coping

resources she's in a weird situation

she's G just going to do yes whatever

yeah and I think that is kind of the

frustrating thing because a lot of it

feels like intent versus impact right

where she's like but like I'm 18 and

this is just like what I like thought

was supposed to do in this situation

like oh okay like it's all of the intent

none of the reactive impact that comes

with an untrained 18-year-old being a

field agent right um a couple miles into

her run she like notices someone is

following her which no [ __ ] someone's

following you that's why they didn't

want you to leave uh and then she like

starts trying to evade them and taking

random back roads and such

and then eventually like trips and

they're like catching up with her it's

Trotter sure yeah it's been Trotter this

whole time um and he like pushes her

against the wall and they start making

out sure yeah as one does MH

mhm I love that we just get in this zone

of like sure why wouldn't that be what

happens next yep yep of course yep don't

know why I didn't guess that one well

because if we start truly thinking about

it we'll be here forever because we'll

just be like that's wor [ __ ] and we'll

go on a whole thing about why that's hor

[ __ ] you know touche yeah yeah well and

she's like why are you even here I'm not

even important and he's like you're the

most important thing to

us and she's like and he's like you

didn't take your coms out and as soon as

Crest saw that you left I like he let me

know so I could come and make sure you

were safe and then she's like looking at

him and she's like is that blood on you

and he's like Drake will never hurt you

again so they're just implying that the

he just [ __ ] killed Drake just casual

murder yeah yeah as you

do

no that's not as you do like yeah it's

not as I do well I'm just like does no

one here have the ability to use healthy

coping skills

well her only healthy coping skill is

running

and she it sounds like a bougie hotel is

there not a treadmill somewhere that she

can use I don't know I have questions

I'm trying to give her a little bit of

credit just a little bit I know right

I'm I'm a little annoyed with her and I

will say that let me work on being a

little more positive and understanding

of her experience but when she's like

I'm not even important Trout's like when

I said no one gets to touch you but but

us I meant it she's like you don't know

me he's like I know I can't wait for my

turn to be inside

you okay yeah I had just taken a large

gulp of wine before you said those

words all right just on the streets of

Italy I mean probably in an

alley so I me if you're going to do that

I guess an alley in Italy is probably

you know I think they have a lot of them

there

yeah a lot of

alleys yeah

like I think I was just thinking it does

lend itself to secluded places sure sure

sure like shadowy Corners yeah shadowy

alleys to secretly [ __ ] like that

that's how the Romans designed it

obviously

and that's why Rome wasn't built in a

day because there

were spots to

[ __ ] because they were too busy

making secluded sex

spots you know kind

of

touche they run back to the hotel and

Trout's like Crest is covering for you

when you get inside like just go to your

room you'll be good and so

he goes back to his undercover

assignment and when she gets up to her

room like Crest like opens her bedroom

door and just like pulls her into it and

he is pissed and she's like why do you

even care you haven't spoken to me since

the van and he's like the problem is I

care too

much this is very much like daytime soap

opera yes it's giving daytime soap opo

with like a secret twin and secret

agents but like unedited yeah yeah yeah

yeah so that

is like I

feel like some of this book is just a

little underdeveloped or like I see like

what they're going for but I'm just like

could we make this feel all right I feel

like an [ __ ] for saying this I'm like

but could we make it feel a little less

juvenile in in their approaches MH um

because I think between the

sometimes Juvenile and reactive

responses and then parts of the plot

that aren't like fully like developed

out it just feels even Messier and more

convoluted and so there are things that

I'm like I can't tell if she's supposed

to be this reactive or if it just reads

that way because it's not well edited in

pieces and and portions

right the next morning Oscar is telling

Kenny to get ready for whatever their

new mission is cuz who the [ __ ] knows um

in the bathroom Trotter links in and she

like looks up from the mirror so that

like can't see your titties sure and

he's like let me see what I'll be waking

up to every morning when all this is

over give me them tickle Bitties I get

it well we we aren't all as lucky as

[Laughter]

you uh but as he's saying that and he's

like oh like show me like what I'll be

waking up to when all this is over she

hears a woman in the background and he's

like one second Rosa and then kind of

like disconnects and she is filled with

a lot of jealousy over whatever's

happening on his undercover assignment

she's like so you're trying to Ogle my

boobies while talking to another

womanless we forget he was [ __ ] down

another woman very recently not getting

[ __ ] down or maybe he was I don't know

what he and Rosa were into we're not

here to judge no All God's

Children to be clear Who We Are here to

judge the

book just not people's sexual

choices

um I have been reading

Leviticus not the book of the Bible I

was going to say what the W nope I oh

wow I

see yeah no I don't even know what my

face did but it was a lot I see what

happened

there I was about to say by El Sparrow

oh sure uh not by who wrote Leviticus

Moses I don't know it's been a while

since I've taken an Old Testament class

wasn't it one of the 12 it doesn't

matter like the

tribes

probably it's it's been over a decade

since I was in

seminary it's been over a decade since I

was in VBS which is where I would have

gotten that trivia from if you were in

VBS a decade ago I would have more

questions

you could still legally drink a decade

ago oh my God it was two decades oh no

it's like I saw a post where a professor

was like I'll never recover from this

email and it was like is there

um uh limit on how far back our

references can go I found a great

article from the late

1900s and I wasn't sure if that was

okay deceased

done oh my God and I was like oh God

damn that's okay because the book of the

Bible Leviticus is

a is a ride unto itself so the book

Leviticus by El Sparrow is a very

fascinating uh book to me it's about I

think like there are five brothers all

of them will get a book but the uh the

families all are in a cult and the

brothers are like making PL to escape

the cult but haven't been able to escape

yet so they're laying all their groundw

work they know all of them are going to

have to get married then they're going

to like offer this freedom to these

women as well but they've all gotten

very into kink in their own individual

lives as they've been like figuring out

their world outside of this cult right

and so Leviticus is he goes by Levi and

the the brother Bartholomew goes by Ali

I was going to say Bart and then Malachi

goes by

Kai is I get it yes yeah um but it's

very interesting to me because it's like

Levi desire for submission and he's very

much a Dom and like very like a like

procedure based right Kink um and his

new wife is like a natural submissive

and like also within the and like the

expectations like the gender

expectations she's just more naturally

inclined to be submissive so he's like

there are all of these things that I

want in a wife but I but but I don't

want them in a wife I want them in a

submissive but I don't know how to have

these conversations with her yeah so

it's a very

interesting read on that because then

he's also like explaining the world of

Kink to her and like explaining uh

Littles and things of that capacity and

she's like I don't think that's for me

and he's like and it's not really for me

either but like we're we accept every

like just thoroughly enjoy the way in

which they are describing and

approaching communication of Kink yeah

yeah yeah would recommend it ironically

same author as XOXO

daddy which has which is a different

experience yeah different energy yes

um I forget where we were cuz I decided

to go on a very very long tangent

she was getting jealous because Trot was

in the Rosa that's how we started yes

that that's how we got on that whole

situation uh when she leaves the

bathroom Crest is in her bedroom like

waiting for her and just another

dramatic conversation where he's like I

care don't think that I don't and she's

like do you care for me like a brother

and he's like is that what you want say

it and I'll stop

just

like this feels like

someone chat GPT may have been used at

some point to help with the dialogue

right right yes um Oscar comes in and is

trying to prep Kenny um but like his his

approach for prepping her for a mission

is she like you need to take this

seriously if you don't take it seriously

millions of people could die but like

once again she's an untrained

18-year-old

right what am I taking seriously give me

specific things to do yes when most of

what they have her doing is just like

being the eyes and relaying the

messages right give me a [ __ ]

checklist

Bud yeah you know like well so she

starts to have like a full-blown panic

attack and Trotter can feel it and he

can tell and so trod and Crest over the

years have like developed their own

secret sign language it's not ASL but

they can communicate with each other

and so Trotter is telling her he's like

hey like make this sign like put like

three fingers down on your left hand now

put one like walking her through it and

so then Crest sees and he's like hey Dad

go pack like why don't you go finish

packing and I'll like run the diagnostic

on whatever T Kenny has or something

like that um which was very kind and and

very sweet um but she like officially

tells them she has panic attacks that

she's had them since her dad passed away

that running is really the only coping

skill that she has

uh

and so Crest tells Kenny he's like hey

like when you're linked into Trotter use

him so like almost like as therapist

when we talk about like using your five

senses to ground you but it's like using

his five senses where he is regulated

and you are disregulated so use his

regulation to ground you right like when

you bre bre with someone or yes like

okay what's he smelling right now name

five things you can

hear it is a very helpful coping like

that was not me [ __ ] on that coping

making fun of it um but yeah that is

essentially like Crest is telling her

use Trotter to like ground yourself to

do a 54321 yeah do a

54321 and Crest is like why didn't you

tell me that you had these panic attacks

and she's like because you weren't

speaking to

me just like the yeah all of this

because it's none of your business like

we weren't close why would I just

disclose it yeah well and so then he

like you fingered me in a van bro like

we're not

like well I think she wanted it to be

more and then he didn't talk to her so

right I think in her head it's not just

like she's like you you fingered me in a

van and I expect full commitment

now I'm like who gives a [ __ ] move on

and she's like obviously this scans we

going to get married and have babies

which is such an 18-year-old thing you

know and I feel like you're like yeah

you know like when you go to the club

and you make out with a rando and then

you leave the club and never see them

again and you never think of it again

and everything was fine yeah and she's

like but his fingers have been inside of

me will we not beat together forever now

is more of the energy of it

a they leave to plant cameras and mics

before the meeting that they have

tomorrow so that's the mission right now

they are planting

cameras proactively noted yes um they

are at the fancy restaurant where the

meeting will be happening and she needs

to get in well they need to get into a

back room to plant the cameras Oscar and

Kenny are at the table Oscar also always

calls her Kennedy which is her full name

but only her dad ever called her Kennedy

so she gets like really annoyed whenever

Oscar like CU she'll make it's Kenny and

he'll just like keep talking over her

sort of energy yeah so uh that's why it

took me a second to say Kenny cuz I was

about to say Kennedy um but I do know

her name I haven't had that much wine

got it thank you yes thriving today

Kenny this is my best work

1,00% so osar is like pointing at a guy

in front of the door uh who's standing

there and he's telling her like hey like

he's going to be are in he uh is very

into beautiful women and loves the

Damsel in

Distress and Trotter and Crest are

getting annoyed because they're like

what the [ __ ] is our dad about to do and

like what situation they didn't prep her

for this at all like no Oscar didn't

prep her for the fact that he was going

to backhand her at the table in the

restaurant and be like you [ __ ] like

you can't leave me think I don't know

you're cheating with the golf instructor

I don't know if he actually said that

last part but like that's very much the

right the energy so then the dude I

think his name is Miguel comes over to

like rescue her and they escort well she

really did need a rescue he's hitting

her like

legitimately like did not uh did not

slow play that whole situation but no

one knew that that was Oscar's plan so

like everyone is Big mad about this to

use your

words Miguel ends up taking uh Kenny

into like the back room where she needed

to be and lo and

behold other people are also in that

room including Trotter with another

woman on his lap sure in his undercover

assignment uh and there's like a card

game going on and it's clearly like the

high rollers and and all of those people

so like Miguel is actually he

he does have an end goal but he brings

her ice and he's like put this on your

face then as he like hands her the ice

he like pulls her onto his lap and she's

like oh not not trying to go that that

hard not where I wanted to sit actually

yes and so he leans in to kiss her and

she's like I need to use the

bathroom cuz once again that's her only

move it's her she has no training she

just keeps she doesn't have any

moves and she's just so beautiful men

keep hitting on her every place she goes

oh the pretty privilege

though uh the episodes of 30 Rock with

John Ham

incredible Matt and I just rewatched

that oh we haven't rewat 30 Rock in a

while yeah I don't know we just picked

it up recently no I feel like I feel

like that one used to be in rotation as

like the we've watched it a thousand

times but we'll watch it again Comfort

comt yeah yes background yeah mhm uh I

feel like Scrubs well I think for scrubs

is one of mine but Vance was like not

into scrubs when it was more of a thing

so I think now when he watches it he's

like I don't yeah I don't really get

different now it does yeah

uh I would be very curious because I

only listened to the first episode or

two but I know uh Zack Brath and Donald

fison had I listen to a few yeah I

listen to like the first couple but I

would curious cuz I don't know if they

continued doing the reviews but yeah a

lot of episodes they did a lot I think

but I just remember at one point Zach

bra went everything in the show was so

sexual oh my God

like I was like yeah Zach [ __ ] yeah

everything everything it was either

like sexual or like very like poignant

deep moments that had a little bit of

like wit in them um and I think that's

always like what I resonated with on the

show I was like oh it's funny and it has

those moments which is also probably why

I love shrinking because it's the same

right director or Creator MH uh whose

wife played Dr Cox's wife yes yes

MH she's very funny she is and then

there was Cougar Town which was awes I

never watched Cougar Town well Cougar

Town definitely was like started with

her being like I'm a cougar and then it

just became about like these neighbors

who all live in a culde saac and have

fun and I I'm into that yeah I like I

feel like when the show first came out

it was like trying to find its footing

and then when it did I was like hey I

like where you landed more than where

you thought you were going to land yeah

uh but all that said she goes to the

bathroom again because that's her one

move Trotter follows her I'm sure we're

all surprised and like pushes her

against the wall and his one move which

is his one move he's like what like what

did I say about like no one touches you

but us and I'm like okay what the [ __ ]

was home girl spell your dad slapped her

across the face Miguel got her the in

she

needed I and he pulled her into he gave

her ice he just wanted some sexual

favors in

return and was set up to believe she was

going to offer those sexual favors

right Miguel's the real victim

here Justice for

Miguel like oh was it was it uh that

Empire of lust series when K showed up

and she's like justice for Amanda and

we're like she was the villain she's

like oh I missed that and like she

kidnapped her own daughter how did we

miss that she was the

villain St one of the funniest it was

really good cuz she was going to die on

that [ __ ]

Hill she's like Amanda was just

misunderstood was she was she though

like musolini just deeply

misunderstood so Trotter's doing his

whole possessive didn't I say no one

touches you but us and he's like pulling

down the strap to her dress and like

biting her boob doesn't say your nip

just her boob which I think is an

important thing to clarify I don't know

why but it does feel like if you're not

undressing someone right biting their

nipples versus biting the meteor part

around their nip

sure you're like I'm just going to see

how far Chelsea goes with this and noted

a

r no what I was thinking was like

like why like what are you doing like

just the sensual touches you know you

got her pushed against the wall you're

biting her

boob uh he tells her to leave the

cameras and that he'll take care of it

and he's like leave the cameras with me

I'll place them like but like if he

touches you again like I'm going to lose

my [ __ ] and she's like you literally had

a girl on your lap and he's like I'm

literally undercover and she's like me

too I get it and so then Trotter like

leans in and like whispering in her ear

and just goes pull it Crest and then the

fire alarm goes off and Trout's like you

will be sneaking out the back door you

will be handing me those cameras thank

you so much you're not doing this right

so I will

say while Crest and Trotter are a little

extra overp

possessive they are also seeming aware

that she's not trained and are trying to

like fill in the deficits where their

dad is just like putting her into these

dangerous situations means two and in

and then is annoyed when she's not

performing right so Oscar's a little bit

of a dick in that capacity see that when

Kenny gets outside uh Crest is there

with a motorcycle and sure so then they

just have like a great intimate

motorcycle moment

as you do as as one does yep they ride

to the safe house where Crest has a

change of clothes for her that she's not

wearing a flimsy dress on the back of a

motorcycle and she realizes like she

hasn't checked in with her mom or called

her or updated her about anything this

whole time and Crest has apparently been

photoshopping a bunch of photos to look

like they're on a fishing trip so he's

like I'll upload them you can like give

them to your mom whenever and Kenny's

also overwhelmed because she's like my

mom is all I've got but also like until

my mom Met Your Dad she was destroyed

when my dad died when like they were

high school

SweeTarts thought they'd be together

forever like was despondent couldn't pay

the bills very much one of those

situations where like Kenny had to

become the adult right and not and

changed the dynamic and the relationship

with her

mom um when they get back to the hotel

Kenny tells off Oscar and it's like you

will never put your hand on me again and

my name is Kenny not Kennedy [ __ ] sort

of I'm like I don't think we could have

left it with the hands he knows your

name he's just an [ __ ] right but in

that way where I'm like yeah you set

those

boundaries little 18-year-old you

who he doesn't give a [ __ ] about he

doesn't clearly yeah and like if he was

willing to smack his stepdaughter across

the face in public in public but it's

also like well like had to do it for

character did

you feels like you could have just

yelled at her like you know yeah well so

the next day uh Kenny is Meandering

through the streets of Italy as you do

yeah because they're like she's like

they're in prepping for the meeting I'm

like eyes but I'm just like being a

tourist sort of energy ah

Recon or whatever yeah be that's all she

can do and she can't even do it well cuz

dudes keep hitting on her another dude

walks up and is flirting with her and so

she I don't know if it's the bathroom

this time but she does excuse herself to

like go to the rendevu point but like on

the way there she starts to feel funny

and is just like oh no not now I've been

taking my meds and then just passes out

on the streets in

Italy I had another thought that's

unrelated have you heard the song host

depressed by thought Squad because if

not you should I have not but I feel

like I absolutely will by the end of the

day the main Hook is These Hoes

depressed not me I take my

[Laughter]

meds that's all I can think I've been

taking my meds yeah she's like I'll beat

that [ __ ] to death JK I take my meds

I really enjoyed that Tik Tock trend for

a while where people were just uh

dancing to shake what your mama gave you

but they were just shaking their pill

bottles of their anti-depressants

100%

yep hit so hard cuz it hits so

true that's how we got there so when

Kenny wakes up she sees a guy standing

over her who's like clearly distressed

and he's like wearing a suit but like

the jacket's off and then that guy has a

twin brother who's wearing more casual

clothes and she's like I don't know who

these people are like she's asking where

her dad is oh no yeah then she sees like

another older dude that she's like I

don't know him but he looks like more my

my dad's age and then suddenly like

things are starting to come to where

she's like oh like you're Oscar my dad

is dead like the people stand like the

guy standing over me are Trotter and

crested um and so she tells them that

she is

uh diagnosed with I guess this is a

diagnosis that I'm probably going to

mispronounce but kiari type 1

malformation oh which I looked up it is

a a real diagnosis it seems like

something with like your brain St

something is a little longer than it

should be and can cause dizziness and

brain fog and confusion h

um I will say I do not know enough about

this diagnosis to make an informed

decision about how I communicate about

it I did accidentally write chabani

malformation instead of I think kiari I

I could be [ __ ] that up right

um but also when I was like looking it

up

on Google and on the internet before we

were

recording it kind kind of seem like you

know when you watch like an episode of

like CSI or like Law and Order yeah and

like they're like this person's really

erratic and they're like you don't

understand they have ADHD they can't

control their impulses and you're like

oh I don't know if uh ADHD is

really all-encompassing enough for what

you're saying it does and so a little

bit of the same situation here where

this seems like if if this is a symptom

that does happen it's it's a very rare

one in the in the real world but from

how they describe it in the book it

causes seizures which uh causes like

short-term memory loss yeah um and so

she can have moments where she'll just

kind of like be a little disoriented

much like when she was in Crest room and

she's like why am I here how did I get

here but like it's not very often that

she has like full episodes where she

like passes outs out yeah wakes up and

is like who the [ __ ] are these people

that's a little bit more of a

rarity and Oscar's immediately like [ __ ]

that I didn't know this is no longer

safe not that it was safe before but

he's like you're no longer on the

mission I'm sending you back to your mom

right

um like does it really make a difference

Oscar if like you were just letting her

just like gallivant around Italy

pretending to be a secret agent this

whole time

whatever apparently it does the deal

didn't happen uh and we learned that

because Kenny where she passed out just

happened to be like in front of the meat

spot and they're like yeah they got

spooked when a girl passed out in front

of the place where the meeting was

supposed to go down whoops so it didn't

happen but they're like not sure if

Trotter's cover is blown within

that but Oscar also was like looking at

like the three of them and he's like I

see what's happening here like I'm not

naive to what's going on between like

the three of you like I thought you

could fight your urges instead you're

jeopardizing it all for his

daughter much to your

hypothesis from

earlier so when Oscar leaves Kenny's

like well I guess this is it I guess I'm

going back to America and Crest is like

I'm not so sure about that the they're

having a hard time with their Tech to

get the flight ready for you to go oh

because I'm the best tech boy who ever

teched direct quote too no no that was

not a direct I was much feeling Chelsea

shut the [ __ ] up I'm a big Tech

boy if Mark Zuckerberg has fanfiction

I'm sure that's what it says I'm the

best tech boy to ever Tech aren't I

whoever Tech to Tech he oh my

God uh Kenny apologizes for not telling

the guys about her diagnosis and they're

like if you apologize one more time I'm

going to walk out that door and not do

all the things I want to do to you

before I have to

leave okay yeah and then they all [ __ ]

so not Oscar he's not there anymore just

that's good just to be clear he wasn't

invited to this party who wasn't invited

no he was not invited um Trotter well

Crest is like should we like rock paper

scissors for who goes first and tr's

like you've already like had this

experience so I'm calling dib sort of

energy and then uh the sex is really

mindblowing because they're like sharing

their senses with each other so it's

kind of like building on top of that and

then Trotter is holding her arms behind

her back as Crest [ __ ] her and it's so

good they all learn she's a squirter

sure including her fun yeah yeah

so

yay did she do that thing because I feel

like I've read it in multiple books now

where she's like oh my go you have to

stop like it feels too good I feel like

I'm going to pee and the guy's like hell

yeah do it and it's like a whole thing

where the girl is freaking out you've

got to stop reading those motorcycle

club romances no it wasn't even just

those it was other ones it wasn't even

just those it was other ones

too you know exactly what I'm talking

about though where the girl is like

freaking out and the guy's like this is

the best thing that's ever happened and

the girl is like so distraught she

wasn't distraught in this one it was

more of like a o didn't know you were a

squirter she's like me either it's more

the energy that this one gives and it's

like I guess when it's that good you

learn things about

yourself

yeah so Trotter has to go he's going to

try and like get back in the ranks and

like see if his cover was

blown but he plans on taking the whole

like yeah a girl passed out and everyone

got spooked and then someone jumped me

so he has Crest beat him up before but

it's like this very dramatic where he's

like I need to go and he's like wait in

the shower Crest will join you sort of

energy so that she

won't it or feel it I

guess so then Crest and Kenny take a

shower together and they're like talking

about their

families and

uh how distant Oscar is as a dad and

Kenny's just like telling him about like

sweet memories that she had with her dad

of like going on a lot of camping trips

and like he would like taught her to

hunt and and things like that so she

does end up linking into troter and she

can figure out how to engage and

disengage it on her own at this point

and she's like feeling all of his pain

because Crest beat him up right um but

she's like no I'm going to force myself

to endure it so that I can give the play

byplay to Crest to make sure that they

know Trotter's safe

okay yeah so trout in his undercover

role is essentially like the second in

command for the guy Riley big

intimidating name uh who's

buying the

bioweapon okay so that is his role and

where he has been this whole time he uh

has been facilitating the deal with the

chemist so as apparently they they buy

it that he was jumped and it's a

non-issue but as the car arrives with

the chemist uh Trotter is telling Kenny

he's like hey cut the feed and she's

like what like I don't understand and

he's like I didn't want it to come to

this I didn't want you to find out this

way I didn't want you to see this but

can't he cut the feed he doesn't I yep

these are these are questions that are

apologies no apologies needed um but I

will just be very clear in saying every

question you have is a valid question

that I also

have

and I have no

answers okay I can accept that yes um so

when he's like I didn't want it to come

to this I didn't want you to to find out

this way suddenly like through his

vision the guy getting out of the car is

Joseph the chemist Kenny's

father yeah this is the collective gasp

none of us saw this coming no at no

point in the recording of this episode

have I even seen it coming this is brand

new in I never could have prepared

myself I am

flabbergasted yes Hannah your face is

the face of someone truly

flabbergasted yeah that and a bulldozer

would knock me

over

sorry Trotter is then like trying to

talk to her and she just like fully

unlinks from it and Crest grabs her and

like throws her in the van and once

again she's big mad again sure yeah yeah

I would be and Oscar doesn't care that

she's big mad he's like hey my son is

out there and you are my connection to

making sure my son is safe so I need you

to like get the [ __ ] over yourself and

relink and like put on your big girl

panties yes which like I do understand

where Oscar is coming from and I also

understand how this situation was

entirely preventable

literally they would have justed her so

many times like when she asked who's the

target 15 [ __ ] times already yeah and

they said you don't need to know no

stress you're just

doing

surveillance that I need to smack you

across the face for it's really feeling

like they're choosing when she's an

actual agent and when she's not we're

cherry picking here yeah and Kenny's

like like I like Oscar I hate you and

when we get back I'm gonna tell my mom

all of this and he's like yeah your mom

already knows oh damn link back

in I need to make sure my son's safe

here so as Kenny links back in things

are in mass chaos like everyone is

running people are shooting like things

are not going great in this moment

and uh her dad hops in like his Caravan

of SUVs and is leaving and she's trying

to wave down his like SUV and it's like

Dad Dad I'm right

here and like the the SUVs are not

stopping and like Trotter tackles her so

that she won't get run over by all of

these SUVs and then she looks and like

realizes like Trotter was like shot at

some point like tackled her so she

wouldn't get hit by a

car and she just like sees a motorcycle

in the chaos and just hops on the

motorcycle and decides to follow after

her dad

okay good luck

Trotter yep like Trotter's holding aside

bleeding on the ground and she speed Bud

she's like my dad doesn't understand the

bad people he's involved with a honey

yep yeah no really uh

unfortunate really choosing to believe

the version of this that she wants to

believe right so she is following her

dad and the Caravan of SUV but she's

like looking over her shoulder at one

point she like looks over her shoulder

to see if she's being followed and the

SUVs have all slammed on their brakes so

she almost crashes into them and like

wipes out on the motorcycle and gets

like road rash and then her dad's goons

grab her and they like talk about like

dumping her body or what what have you

and she's like no like tell Joseph like

I'm Kennedy like he'll like want to see

me like I I swear I promise and so sure

enough they're like yep talk to the boss

he says like keep her and then they

chloroform her and she passes out and

when they get her in the

car so when she comes to she's in an

unknown location like being kept in a

room with like a bed no toilet they're

bringing a bucket for her sort of energy

yeah um we're in a like dungeon

situation a little bit Yeah and we we do

learn it's been five days that yeah like

oh damn sometime has passed so she was

like unconscious for that long or that's

when we it seemed like they ended up

putting her in like a medically induced

coma when they got her there sort of

thing like they chose to keep her

sedated but also to like help her body

heal from all of the the road rash and

such so her dad comes in um Joseph and

she's like he looks just like my dad but

like has like different manner like

she's like this is not the guy I grew up

with this is not the dad that like was

my mom's high school sweetheart who took

me on hiking and camping trip

um and he's like oh she's like oh thank

God like we we need to escape these are

bad people and he and he's sitting there

and he's like what were you doing in

Italy and she's like that's not the

question I no dad like these are bad

people and she's like I well maybe

actually she's not there yet I think

she's playing a little bit more dumb and

so when he's like what were you doing in

Italy she's a little bit more like I was

on

a fishing trip with my stepdad and step

brother sort of sort of thing but like

this goes on for apparently like over 2

weeks oh and they're just like he's

questioning her for that long I don't

know if he's questioning her for that

long but they're like keeping her in the

room for that long and like one of the

guys is a little bit kinder to her and

every day she's like how long have I

been here and she's like marking it like

on the wall and so it's been over 14

days since she's been there um but has

not really given her dad any info

outside of being like Dad like what are

you doing why why were you in Italy MH

uh sort of thing mhm so a couple weeks

into this um her dad wakes her up and

like shaking her and he's like we need

to escape like we need to go like right

now like gra grab your stuff and let's

go so like they're running they have

this whole plan like there's like a body

of water they like Escape across the

body of water and are swimming and

continuing to run and escaping

and uh as they're like catching their

breath her dad asks again he's like so

like how did you find me in Italy and

she was like why did people start

shooting in Italy and like doesn't

really like answer his question and then

that's when she gets a little bit more

like these are bad people like let me

help

you uh and her dad's like what do you

know about these bad people and she

literally tells him everything oh honey

does stop like that is such a setup

though like he did all that on

purpose yeah I'm guessing but not

guessing

yeah and like I I think it's also one of

those books like as you're reading it at

no point are you like what this is a

plot twist you like see every plot twist

coming from the first page of the book

yeah so I think you're just like

watching her do it and you're just like

[ __ ] hell Kenny yeah like don't go in

the basement

like like don't go in there keep that

Caucasian curiosity to

yourself don't go in the basement do not

hop on that motorcycle let them Escape

good ma'am you are safe you are fine you

do not need to involve yourself in that

but yeah so she like literally tells him

everything including the fact that she

has like the [ __ ] stinger in her head

oh sweetheart and so then they're like

as they're remaining

they're trekking to

safety their escape yeah their escape

they push through some bushes and she

sees their cabin and she's like wait

this is where we've been this whole time

and like it finally like starts to click

for her that she's like oh my God my dad

actually isn't a good person mhm and

he's the actual enemy in this and you're

like yep yep he sure is

we glad you got here wish you'd gotten

here a little bit sooner but baby girl

but glad you got

here so when they get into the house

like his goons grab her and he's saying

he's going to test the antidote for the

chemical compound on her um and when

he's taking her like to the lab they

walk past the room where he's been

keeping her and so she's like this is

the [ __ ] house that like I've grown

up going to camping trips on and you

were keeping me in a room in a basement

having me piss in a bucket

right like so it's like fully settling

in now like this man does not care for

her wellbeing yes yes yes yeah and he uh

they like shoot her up with the serum

with the antidote and they put her in an

airtight chamber then like release the

chemical oops just hit my mic sorry

Vance uh release the chemical agent into

the chamber with her and then suddenly

like bombs start going off and her dad's

like oh no

people are here and her dad takes off

again and just like leaves her in this

chamber yeah full of this chemical this

deadly chemical yes that she should

hypothetically be safe from because she

has been shot up with the antidote right

for it not anecdote for it which I feel

myself wanting to say antidote ant

Crest Crest

Trotter Trotter Trotter Trotter I don't

know why I got British about about it

I'm so

sorry

I whenever I used to like when I was in

like middle school and I'd be like

singing along to like I don't know

Fallout Boy like any like angsty plain

white

te yes all of that Middle School angst I

would always end up singing in a

British and I have no idea why but it's

like the Brits just feel angster or

they're like classier about their angst

maybe maybe that's what it is they're

classier they have boug

angst accents just make your angst

bouier yes I'm sorry could you say this

with an accent it would seem a little

less

sad I would listen better and care more

if you had an

accent uh when I was in grad school we

had a lot of international students

and one of my classmates was from St

Martin oh yeah and another classmate was

from Northern Ireland oh no oh no it was

the like I whenever we had classes

together and I was like can you just

read this entire textbook aloud to me I

would absorb this information so much

easier if I could if I could hear it

with your

accent I'll be a better student if you

read this to me because you're accent is

so soothing as I get through the

content because Jeremy from Nebraska

doesn't have the same effect I don't

actually think there was a Jeremy from

Nebraska I'm just I get it though I get

it yeah I'm like oh no please please

keep reading to me in nice accents it's

like listening to Jim Dale read uh cuz

he did all the Harry Potter oh yeah

audio books

right

so uh the bombs are going off her dad

escapes the uh the the bomb Setters

are Trotter Crest and Oscar um so it is

her people coming to rescue her and

apparently they'd had a Scrambler going

which so she hadn't been able to like

engage with Trot that I was going to ask

like why have we not just linked with

Trotter but I get it she'd been trying

and then this was why she found out that

she she hadn't been able to like Oscar's

also mad because he's like okay it's

like what all does your dad know and

she's like you should probably move my

mom and he's like so you saying like a

[ __ ] Canary sort of energy I'm like

it's my dad you didn't tell me he was

evil yeah like you let me find out on

the Fly that he's evil then when I'm

like but he's my dad and I want to I out

for like two or three weeks I held out

yes like hey Oscar yeah maybe [ __ ] off

you're not the best stepdad

around no so Oscar leaves and is

frustrated uh they do plan on keeping

her for observation just at the cabin

that night and they're like we don't

need to move her let's just like make

sure everything is is good then we'll

move her the next day one of the people

like the the med people who comes in to

check on her they're like oh like

there's already a room set up with a bed

uh that you can stay in and she's like

that's the room he was keeping me in and

then like trout like sees it and he's

like oh my God I'm going to kill him

like I can't believe he was keeping you

in that in that room but also she has an

actual bedroom because it's their like

family cabin she she grew up going to so

she goes up to her bedroom and then is

just looking around and like seeing all

of their family photos and like

everything through new eyes yes like

she's an artist and like that's like the

the eil and art supplies my dad bought

for me for me to have here and she just

like loses her [ __ ] well yeah cuz like

everything's tainted now 1,000% and so

she just starts

destroying everything in in the bedroom

um Trotter and Crest end up showing up

and they're like you can keep breaking

every single piece of furniture in here

you do what you need but like we're not

going to leave you alone we want you to

know like we're here if if you need us

but like you can keep breaking [ __ ]

that's fine um then they all cram into

her bed for the night the next day they

all plan to go to the safe house and

when they get there her mom is there and

when her mom like runs up to her and

grabs her and is like where is it like

we got to get it out of you and like

wants to like get the stinger out of her

and like their whole plan is

uh that they're her and her mom are

going to end up in a like they're going

to go to Colorado and start a new life

and like oh just separate from all this

I also forgot to say that before they

left the house the next

morning uh Kenny takes a can of gasoline

and pours it all over the entire house

and lights it sure lights it all up good

for her burns the entire house down yeah

I get

it do I I mean I understand it from like

an 18-year-old angst perspective given

her history and how out of pocket her

whole experience has been sure burn it

down babe I get it like it seems like

you really need this for closure yeah in

a way that I'm like I don't know if it's

actually going to provide you the

closure the closure you're looking for

no but it is cathartic in a way yeah you

could also maybe just

like write a letter to your dad then

burn that right um lock up the cabin and

let it fall into disrepair

like once again we had options we did

and we made choices we did yeah the

whole

time So the plan is for them to move to

Colorado and like just start their lives

over

of like their marriage will dissolve

because we need to go and start a new

life uh Kenny's not thrilled with this

plan this is not the plan she wanted

she's fully committed to the twins you

get it they've been inside her and her

mom is a bit judgmental not about the

Step Brothers portion I think about it

being

Brothers uh yeah I think that's more the

issue not even like more than one

partner she's like but they're Brothers

no I meant the plural in general okay

okay okay um so it's the more than one

partner yeah I think it is the more than

one partner like I think if it was just

Crest she'd been cool who can say right

we think maybe we'd be cooler when

you're like if it wasn't both your Step

Brothers I'd be fine with this okay so

if it's was just one step brother you'd

be fine with

it well the majority of PornHub agrees

like okay the bald and the Beautiful

they said it's

fine so the guys end up telling Kenny

that they're like hey we have a van

packed for all of us to go and we can

just pursue Joseph on our own our dad is

about like he's drinking on the couch

because he's very sad about what's going

on between him and your mom so he's

going to be drunk so he did actually

care about yes he was actually in love

with the mom and uh I think he was

pulling more of the it's an opportunity

for his cover to not get fully pulled

from the mission right so not that he

didn't care about her so now that the

cover is pretty much [ __ ] he can't

make that excuse anymore she's in

danger I think it's also the mom being

like I'm not going to put my daughter

through this and so we're going to go

like I'm going to leave you and we're

going to like start a new life and like

you because you put us in the situation

you're going to help us get there and

like I'm not really willing to reconcile

with you right right like I think in his

head he's like I still love her and

she's still my wife and I still want a

marriage um right and she's more like

yeah you put my daughter in danger in

situations she didn't need to be in and

I'm going to put her

first but also has she put her first

because to to Kenny's Point her mom knew

the whole time was like practically

catatonic after her dad passed away and

she was taking care of her 100% paying

all of the bills doing all of the

groceries assuming the entire parental

role within their relationship right so

now it's like okay so now you want to be

a mom like in the 11th

hour yeah but it's like in at one point

they're like well and at the end of the

book it's they're kind of like oh yeah

we talk every day I was like about what

like you see like your mom like you're

like she doesn't really accept that like

I like have two boyfriends but like we

like talk every day okay uh what this

isn't how these things work it's not no

um um and I think that is a frustrating

thing within this book and honestly

we're giving Mom way more time than she

actually is even in the [ __ ] book if

I'm being Hest like yeah she's very much

a side character but as I said

everything in this whole [ __ ] book is

underdeveloped so we're really creating

whatever narrative we want about how

this came because they didn't we don't

know because we don't know and they

didn't tell us it'll remain a mystery

yep so they uh Oscar gets drunk enough

he passes out they all end up sneaking

out the guys are telling her they that

they can't live without her sure um and

so even though they're all benched

they're going to pursue Joseph and that

they can't live without her so when they

get to the garage the van is filled with

all of the stuff that they need but then

also two like really slick motor cycles

are there and

so she's a big Moto girl I guess

okay once again [ __ ] underdeveloped

book I feel myself getting more annoyed

as we go I see it in your face yes uh

because I'm like it seemed you never

mentioned motorcycles until you went on

one to escape the Miguel situation with

ch I actually had that question I was

like has she ever been on a motorcycle

before [ __ ] Hannah she hasn't done

[ __ ] [ __ ] because riding a motorcycle

is not like riding a bike or like and

she's riding it with confidence and

maybe they address how she knows all of

that like at one point it's like and so

I like pushed the throttle and then

Trotter pushed the throttle and then I

said whoever like whichever one of us

gets to the exit first gets to be inside

me first and like I'm like Crest isn't

in the car so I'm racing for Crest

against like what yes it's like that's

the energy so they like race the

motorcycles to the airplane that

apparently Crest and Trotter are also

the pilots of obviously duh why wouldn't

cuz he's the techiestudios

the biggest Tech boy in all the land

yikes but she got to the exit first so

Crest gets first dib so Trotter is

flying the plane after they get it in

the air and

then Trotter not Trotter Crest gets to

Bone her and then she links in to trot

her so he can feel it we should distract

him while he's driving while he's flying

a plane okay I mean I do think when it's

in the air it should be autopilot

situation I was like short of turbulence

it should be pretty easy I don't know

anything about flying a plane you know

that's fair my dad had his pilot's

license at one point I don't know if he

still does I could ask him but it does

seem like the getting into the

air you got to pay more attention unless

like when you get in the air you're like

it's it's rough weather but I think if

it's just like blue

skies I don't know anyway she does

decide to distract him but I had the

same thought of is this really the

moment you're very nervous about flying

Maybe let the men in charge of your

safety focus

focus so they've now been on the run for

a few weeks they landed in Mexico and

kind of following leads and she's like

believe it or not it's harder to find

someone who doesn't want to be found

than you think like TV really makes it

look so

easy yes okay yes it does uh and so they

are they're either in Mexico or bise at

this point they're kind of like

following like working on the coast as

they're getting new leads and she's kind

of wondering like what will happen after

all of this and like when the mission is

finished like she'd always plan to go to

art school and like are Trotter and

Crest going to just stay working in the

field and like where does this leave all

of them and do they even want her after

this so she's kind of like not been

linking in with trod as much just

because she's wanted to like process her

own thoughts right but then trod is like

oh no is everything okay she's like

she's pulling away from me yeah so like

Crest goes down to the beach to check on

her and talk and touch base and then as

they're sitting and talking they hear an

engine like rev up and they're like

we're like in an isolated house that

like there are not a lot of roads by and

so they look out just in time like more

towards the water to see people coming

up with guns and like start shooting at

them so they start running to the house

and they the guys like lock her in the

bathroom and then while she's in the

bathroom um one of her dad's goons

breaks the window and comes in and is

trying to get her and he's like you

survived you're one of us you're special

you have the antidote sort of energy

like a weird cult situation not fully

one of

us anyway uh anyway

they he she tries to run off like she

like reaches for the bathroom door but

the guys that told her to stay in the

bathroom her dad's goon shoots her

through the hand and is like he like I

we I need to return you alive but like

some holes won't be a big deal or

something beg to differ Bud

yeah I'm forget exact it's all very

messy and very chaotic he he doesn't get

her through the bathroom window so like

he takes off and like she's safe with

the guys again and they're like

addressing her hand and making sure

she's okay and she passes at him when

she comes too they're like you passed

she's like oh no like did I have another

like chronic disease seizure and they're

like no you just you were shocked you

were shot in the hand like it it was a

through and through we like if we

patched it you'll be fine but like you

were shot you yeah that that's why that

one happened that would hurt so bad like

all the bones and ligaments like yeah

even though even though they were like

it's a straight through I'm like but you

use your hands a lot there so many bones

in there sorry you're not wrong the

guy's got her hand stitched up but they

also they didn't see the guy who like

the Goon who came into the bathroom who

she had recognized so they're just like

why are these guns for hire chasing us

who are which one of us are they here

for we don't know we got to move and

she's like I mean yeah like we need to

move but also like it's my dad yeah

they're here for me they're here for me

I am the the main event here and so they

move on to the next place and just like

try and keep a even lower profile and

like at one point she's like sleeping on

the floor of the shack that they're

staying in but she's like I'm not going

to the guy said that we could stay in a

nicer place but I'm not going to

jeopardize their safety for me and so if

this is the way they do missions then

this is how we'll do missions Okie

doie

fine like it's the for me fine the

begrudging acceptance of I guess yeah

this is where we are yeah

yeah so as this is continuing they

finally get another lead they get

confirmation they're like we have P like

pictures of Joseph here within the last

couple of hours and he's planning on

meeting with Riley so the deal is still

planning to go

through and at this point Kenny's just

like so blinded by her like rage and

hatred for her dad that she's like he

needs to be killed he needs to be

stopped no matter what I don't care that

he's my dad I I hate him sort of energy

and so she's like you need to like get

back in the game and like resume your

second and command positions like see if

you can like get back in and he's like I

don't really know and she's like that's

like what we need to have happen here

I'm 18 I've never done undercover work

before but I feel very confident that

this is the

way well and also what but like his

Inn was Rosa so like the girl he was

[ __ ] guess like I think her Rose's

brother is Riley I think was what it was

so like that was his Inn and so Trotter

like I think this scene annoyed me

because it seems like at least how it's

written Kenny doesn't realize what she's

asking trod to do she's saying get back

in there get us the info we need by any

means and Trotter is like I care about

you enough that I'm willing to do this

but like I don't want to well also the

fact that

like he's

like it's his body that he's now like

giving over in a sexual capacity right

that like not just like the I don't want

to but like just like the bodily consent

right of it right um adds an extra layer

of like uh yeah so Trotter does it but

like kind of like shuts Kenny out right

um but then he links

in as he's [ __ ] Rosa oh tro and he

like tells Kenny's like go look in the

mirror and so

like he in the mirror the reflection

that she's seeing back that is him is

like Rosa's on the counter so it's like

her back like Rosa's back and she's like

making eye contact with Trotter like

over his shoulder she's making eye

contact with K and then she's kind of

like like what's happening he's like you

asked me to do this like don't get shy

now and like wants her to watch but then

like she's kind of getting into it

because like she's getting aroused so

she ends up like tagging in Crest then

tells Crest to [ __ ] her from behind

while she looks in the mirror then her

and trout had these like Mutual orgasms

where they're just kind of using

everyone

yeah yeah like it's messy and like

doesn't feel good yeah like why

yeah and so then when like Trotter like

gets back to the house she pushes him

against the wall and holds a knife to

his throat and is like if you ever like

[ __ ] do that again like I'll make

sure you you can't use your balls

anymore doie and he's like don't pretend

you didn't like it like we both know

better and he's also like I was like I

like couldn't get hard when she put her

hands in my pants cuz like it wasn't her

eyes I want it was your like that's very

much energy but like when he's like

giving this very like don't pretend you

didn't like it we both know better she

like stabs him in the thigh with the

knife intentionally okay cuz she's upset

and like don't do it again stabs him in

the [ __ ] thigh with the knife and

then she's like I felt violated that

like you were like controlling my body

that way and like not giving me a choice

and he's kind of like Uno reverse babe

W yeah yeah and but then he's like don't

claim emotions that like aren't

yours something like that where you're

like what like this is the most juvenile

like trer you could have just explained

to her on the front end what she was

asking require now I hit my mic sorry

Dan uh yeah I'm like we could have just

like used our communication skills at

any point in time and not end it up

through the whole book we could have

told from the beginning about the whole

situation yes that it was her dad like

like we could have just locked our

bedroom door it down from the beginning

if Crest had just locked his door we'd

never be having this

conversation so within all of this

heightened emotions like Trotter like

goes to the bathroom and like Kenny's

like go go stitches like up clean them

up I need some fresh air so she goes

outside to get some fresh air and has an

episode passes

out so she passes out and then when she

comes too she's been kidnapped I was

going to say she gets kidnapped again

because her dad had a Tracker in her

apparently sure yeah something like that

someone had a Tracker in her who the

[ __ ] knows not me the Stinger's a track

tracker right well cuz like the Joseph

and his goons like cut the tracker out

of her that I'm like okay Crest had a

Tracker but how did you find her did you

also have a Tracker none of

it none of it really matters sure is

that the end she wakes up

kidnapped no that's not the full end

it's just oh okay uh I did shut my phone

I was like oh okay so she wakes upid

aggressive end to the book um so Joseph

is now planning on selling the chemical

and her as the antidote like because she

has the antidote okay but I'm like but

it seemed how you described it before

you were just testing the antidote on

her and now you're selling her as the

person that she is the antidote that it

needs to be like siphoned from her right

something of that capacity so sure the

cars roll up um but it's not Riley it's

the guys and they start

shooting I I don't know it all ends

well the guys [ __ ] her at the same time

they win the shootout they win the

shootout sexy times in

Sue yeah and then they like aren't

they're like in trouble because they

stole government resources to go on the

run and track down uh terrorist but then

they're also not in trouble because they

beat the terrorist sure and destroyed

the the k IAL compound

situation and so she's like I don't know

what's going to happen next my mom and

stepdad Oscar are sailing around the

coast of Mexico right now I'm going to

go to art

school and like that's literally like

where it ends there's double

penetration she's like all right there's

double penetration yeah like the big

like solidifying sex scene there's

double penetration the guys like I think

they like get her her own motorcycle

they all have matching motorcycles at

the end something like

that whatever it happened okay

okay

so my only remaining question is like

what is our rating scale for this

because it's so messy is it

motorcycles is it

Stingers is it

borms I think motorcycles yeah feels

safe

sure

um I don't know how many motorcycles

Hannah I don't know out of three

motorcycles I was going to say three for

three of them but then I was like

oh is it like one wheel because you

really did not like this I was going to

say like half a

motorcycle half of one

motorcycle

okay yeah like like like there's an

butel or front in half oh top and bottom

okay

okay but also maybe just like the front

half of the motorcycle handlebars got

it speaking of uh when we're like yeah

things when you're like 18 that you

think are like silly or funny or territ

like just like dude things I

remember there was a Starbucks that my

whole group of friends used to hang out

at and it was always like youd like

drive past and whoever was there You'

just like Park and like hang out for a

little bit and I remember walking up

with pigtails one day and this like

19-year-old guy just looked at me and

went

handlebars

nice in just a way that only a

19-year-old will ever say that with

confidence oh my God

the things you look back on you're like

what the [ __ ]

yeah so uh one of I don't think that guy

lived past 21 if you're just going

around saying [ __ ] like that you know

what he did he I mean I'm glad he did

but that's well he actually got married

had three children oh living a wonderful

good for you live a beautiful life

he probably doesn't want to be known as

handlebar guy no and

honestly there are people that I would

drag like that and call handlebar guy

for the rest of our our time moving

forward he's not like he's one of those

dudes that you like look back and like

I'm sure he looks back and he's like

what the [ __ ] was that thing he a 19y

not my best moment so much cringe yeah

yeah yeah yeah so I'm I'm not even going

to give him that that title moving

forward H he is not the Florida person

who deserves that title moving forward

you know I do know okay so yeah like

half half a motorcycle half of one

motorcycle is uh my out of

three I think the thing that really

bummed me out is from the

description this book seemed like it was

going to be so cool or could be so cool

when you were telling me about it I was

like okay okay yeah and I think that was

before you even read it you just told me

that you found it yeah yeah and so I

like reading it I was like man I see

what we were going for but I also just

like we missed it yeah yeah so like if

we could rework it a little bit and try

again I would probably thoroughly enjoy

it but like at some point it seems like

like the mid chapter breaks where it's

not it's not the next chapter but

there's a scene change and there's like

the where you'll put a little dash line

or something or have something

yes to designate um it seemed like at

some point they just stopped putting the

extra space cuz I'm like we went from

one scene to

another with no warning yes they're

eating pizza and in the next scene she's

like trying to like get his gun away

from him as like Trotter's training her

like like wait what how they were

literally eating pizza and you're like

pizza

into and you're like what is happening

like that happened

lot so it wasn't even like that the

story was a struggle it's that the way

that it was written was a struggle

that's kind I'd say both were a struggle

well I'm saying not only and yes both

and yes I would say it's a both and

situation like I think uh the editing

and there were some things where I'm

like we were like we got gender pronouns

wrong oh in a way that I'm like there's

no one to miss gender you just like

didn't double check it so like those

things so I think the kind of reactive

communication that they had plus

the lack of editing the chaotic yeah

like I wanted I wanted to be into this

one so much and I'm bummed that I'm not

yeah so one one motor one half of a

motor half of one

motorcycle and eloquent too like we're

doing a really good job today yeah on

all fr big eloquent girly over here what

I've known for um okay

one nope not one

half of a motorcycle out of three I

think when we got on handlebars I was

about to just say one set of handlebars

and I was like no mo more motorcycle

than that well now I have the song

handlebar stuck in my head and I'm

having a really hard time yeah yeah oh

my gosh all right half of one motorcycle

half of one of three motorcycles is our

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