EP 104: Gods and Graves by Katie May
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Hey everybody and welcome to Smut Club.
I'm Hannah.
And I'm Chelsea.
And this is the podcast where we are two
licensed therapists and life coaches who
sometimes daydrink and sometimes don't
while reviewing smut books of varying
caliber.
That was the exact elevator pitch we've
perfected over a 100 episodes.
I know. It was smooth as [ __ ]
Yeah. Last time I was like, you know, we
like day drinking. And I was like, no,
that's not what we say. I was like,
"Damn it, Chelsea. Oh, we're in triple
digits on these episodes." And I'm
I'm keeping it fresh. You know,
got to stay sharp. Got to stay fresh.
Got to stay nimble. If you don't try new
things, you won't find out if they work.
Unfortunately, most of the time,
it's also how we found out they don't
work.
Life keeps us humble. Okay. What What
book are we reviewing today? Gods and
Graves by Katie May.
Okay. Gods and Graves by Katie May. That
sounds like it's likely the first book
in a series.
It's not actually, which is why I'm
reviewing it. It is a standalone
complete story.
Oh, we love that. Especially because I
know we talk so often about like
different books that we like think about
reviewing or want to review, but they're
setting up all of the other books in the
series and
it can get a little daunting to be like,
"Okay, what matters in this review? What
what matters if we were reviewing the
second book in the series?"
So, will the will it become a series at
some point or it's
I don't think so.
Okay.
That's not the way that it reads, but I
suppose it's possible.
That's fair. Gods and Grades definitely
like I made an assumption.
It does have series vibes and I would
totally read more if she did decide to
turn this into a series.
So we open there are multiple points of
view here. We open with Thea. Now this
is a paranormal reverse harum.
So literally like two days ago I was
like Vance what do you think about the
name Thea? And he's like no. And then he
just moved on with his day. I mean
Thea's cute.
I thought it was cute as well. And to
his point, not that we're planning on
necessarily having another child, but if
we did, there are girl names that are
already picked out. So, I think for him,
it was more of like,
why why are you saying that? We already
have names we like better. And I'm like,
I don't know. I like to throw out
options. You miss 100% of the shots you
don't take. My bad. I won't recommend
Thea again.
So,
that is uh weirdly fortuitous.
We'll get there. So, Thea is a reaper.
Okay.
Okay.
And she is being held in this room and
the room meets all of her needs. So,
is this the prequel to The Room?
No. That would be a twist, wouldn't it?
No. So,
played by Brie Larson.
Um, well, so
I just went through a whole process to
witness on my face. Was that about Brie
Larson? Was that about the role? I have
questions.
All of those things. Yeah.
Are you Do you do you not like Brie
Larson?
No, I do. I was just like, would she be
good in with this? And then I was like,
she would though. Well, they would never
turn this into a movie. And if they did,
Brie Larson would not be in it to be
clear.
I can't wait to find out the rest of the
book and then be like, you know, Touche,
that wouldn't be a movie.
So, it would be a movie that I would
watch. I just don't think most people
would watch it. So, she is in this room
and she has no memory of anything except
this room. So, she gets sent out to
collect souls at random and it's
extremely painful. Like she experiences
this like full body physical pain and
she gets pulled to another location. She
has a dagger that she uses to reap the
soul. Once that is complete, she is
pulled back to the room and she remains
in significant pain until she puts the
dagger on like a special pedestal or
something that has runes on it and then
she's fine.
Does she retain memory of all of these?
Yes. Okay. So, like she has no memory
outside of the room outside of the
reaping that she has done, but like
anything before that, her origin,
anything like that?
Yep.
Not quite the same.
But Dollhouse by Jos Sweden.
Oh my god, love it.
Like the like, oh, yep, you're a doll.
You then like go out and do this thing
and then you come back to the dollhouse
and you're like, yeah, white back to
zero. And so I I know she's retaining
her memory, but like that was the
first association I kind of made.
Yeah, I love that show.
It was so good. My biggest issue with
it, and Jos Sweden has said this in an
interview, he's like they were trying to
cancel Dollhouse from like the time it
was green lit.
So yeah, like the second season was like
slamming multiple seasons of plot
into one season cuz they were trying to
get through all of it and it was
you felt it.
Oh, you really did.
Yeah. It was unfortunate.
But season one,
chef's one of my favorite.
Yeah, it's the perfect show. Yeah. So
good. Maybe we'll we'll go back and
rewatch that.
I was just thinking that. I wonder if
it's held up. I'll find out. Um, but so
Thea, she nobody can see her or hear her
or anything when she is outside of the
room and she has no interaction with
anybody inside the room. She's
completely alone.
So when she goes to reap someone's soul,
they can't see her. So there's no like
no one's trying to fight her when she's
doing this. She's just invisible. Yep.
going stabbing them
with the dagger for their soul.
So, it's just their soul that she's
stabbing. So, once the soul has
separated from the body, she collects it
in the dagger. So, she can hear the
souls. So, she hears them screaming at
her. And that's part of the pain she's
in is she can hear people saying like,
"Why did you do this to me? How could
you? You killed me." which none of that
is true, but like it is driving her
insane. So, she's do she does stuff like
pretending to eat popcorn. Like, she's
going to reap a soul and she's like, "I
wonder which one I'm taking. Is it this
one or this one?" And she's like
pretending to do popcorn. And then the
guy dies and his soul separates and he's
like, "Who the [ __ ] are you?" Cuz his
soul turns and sees her
and she's like, "I'm your father." And
he's like, "What the fuck?" And she's
like, "Darth Vader." No. Cool.
I'm here to collect your soul. It's like
very she's very chaotic. Um, and the
only interaction she really has is with
her cactus that she calls Potty. And she
just talks to Potty. And she's like,
"Quit being a prickly bitch." And like
that's her whole vibe. She's insane, but
she knows it. Well, but also being alone
in a room where like your only sensory
experience is lots of pain.
Yeah. Sucks.
Yeah. I get why like we're a few fries
short of a happy meal in this situation.
Mhm. And so she is currently in the
process of like accepting that this is
going to be her life for eternity. She's
been here for hundreds of years and she
will be here for hundreds of years.
There's no way out, right? that she has
found. She's like, "I've tried to get
out. There's no way out."
So, we switch to Everett. So,
we have Greek gods here. The gods, they
revealed themselves to humans several
centuries ago. And because of that,
humanity also became aware of like
supernatural creatures. And so each god
created a like
special team to protect humans from
rogue supernaturals.
I'm pretty sure I had that shirt in my
middle school western evangelical
God's team to protect like
Yep. Mhm. It was sold at the family
Christian bookstore
on that wall.
Not the family Christian bookstore. I
had crumb and fish. the Bible that had a
a soda can on top that that was metal
that said thirsty on it.
Yeah, like the tiny one that had the
magnet clip on it. I know the one that I
think my sister had that one so I had
the metal version that had the like
scratchy cross on it instead
had that Bible.
Yeah.
For and then I needed a Bible with
larger font.
It was so
was not super user friendly. Um, so
Everett is one of the team leaders
for these different teams.
He's not a god. He's just a team leader.
Correct.
For a god.
Um, and
assistant to
assistant to the regional god. Um, who
in this case is Aries. Aries is their
okay like boss, I guess. And so only one
team is awake at a time. and the gods
have turned it into like a competition
to see whose team can live the longest
basically. It's kind of [ __ ] up the
way it all happens. Um
and every team it was it was pretty
[ __ ] up. Um Everett's team has been in
basically a stasis for four centuries.
They have just recently been woken up as
it's their turn to
be the team, right? to be the
supernatural popo, I guess.
So, um, he is some kind of shifter, but
we don't know what kind. It's all very
mysterious.
Do we find out later or is that an
ongoing?
We do. So, Christian is an elf and he's
very much a ladies man.
Mhm.
Zed, I think is how we say it. It's
spelled Z A I D. Zed is a wraith and he
can take on shadow form and so he's a
fantastic spy. He just basically goes
wherever. Um, and then Raphael is a
blood fay who is being driven insane by
blood lust. So the way it's described,
the blood fay sounds sort of like a
vampire. So that's how I made sense of
that.
That makes sense. So Everett is feeling
like
something isn't right with a lot of the
missions they're going on, but he's like
this is our life. Like we are just going
to do this job until we get killed off
and then the next team is going to show
up. Like me getting wrapped up in this
is not going to be helpful. Um
well that's a downer.
Very. So Zed is the wraith and he is
super gentle and very sweet and he is
kind of like the therapist of the group
and so people are always coming to talk
to him about different things and they
have all been together since the age of
10. So the children are born with the
mark of a god and that's how you know
the god has selected them to be on their
team. So, the parents surrendered their
children at the age of 10 to be trained
by the gods until it was time for them
to take on this
thing mission.
Okay. Enders game.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like Yeah.
Oh, that. So, like, oh man, your kid's
just like born with the mark. Then
you're like, oh, great. So, I going to
have to sacrifice you to the gods at
some point.
Yeah.
And they're all supernaturals.
Um
Okay. They're all supernaturals.
Yeah. And Aries is a bit of a dick
generally, but he's the only father
figure they really have. And so, um Zed
is like, you know, I think he genuinely
cares about us. Like, he's raised us
since we were 10. Like, you know, it's
not a great relationship, but it's kind
of all they've got. You know, I'm just
picturing Aries standing there going,
"I'll be your father figure.
I'll drink that brown liquor." No,
I was thinking of George.
I was going with the new Taylor Swift
father, which is I'll be your father
figure. I'll drink that brown liquor.
I'm like made a deal with this devil.
Turns out my dick's bigger.
Good.
Yes. Um although it was people were like
how does George Michael and like estate
feel about
I was going to say George Michael
doesn't care.
Yeah. And I'm also like it's catchy as
hell. So
yeah like even I was like
I'm not even like I'm not a swifty
father again. That's George Michael.
That is um I think we're fixated on on
different parts of this. So where are we
at? So Christian comes to Zed and he's
like, "Hey, I need you to watch out for
Chris." Who the [ __ ] is Chris? It's the
nighttime version of Christian. So we
find out that he sort of has this weird
split personality. So Fay are either
born light Fay or dark Fay depending on
the time of day they're born. But
Christian was born at midnight. So he is
half light and half dark. So at night he
becomes a dark fay and he has no memory
or elf I guess whatever the [ __ ] elf. Um
it there was this girl I knew and I
forget
what the fake name was. Um, but she had
a neon sign made that had like
So, this is not her name, but I'm
thinking of a co-orker who we always
whose name is Gerilyn, who we always
refer to like her sassy side when she
like needs to get firm with someone as
Geraldine.
And so like oh like Geraldine's coming
out but this girl and I'm forgetting her
name so for all intents and purposes
we're just going to go with Geraldine
had a neon sign made. The top said
Gerilyn, the bottom said Geraldine. And
so
she could light up which one was in the
house.
She got a few drinks in her. She'd flip
that switch and be like it's Geraldine
[ __ ] Like whatever her name actually
was. But that's what I'm picturing with
Chris and Christian is like
it's Chris now.
Yeah. Um, and Christian has no memory of
what Chris does at night, and it freaks
him the [ __ ] out.
Yeah, that would freak you out.
Yeah. Um, so we're back to Thea.
Okay.
She is watching a Tel Nolla. Um, and
she has a TV in this room.
She does. So, one of some of the only
things she has like there's a bookshelf
that will magically rotate books.
There's
a TV. there's a wardrobe with like
random clothing in it. She's like, "I
don't really need it. Nobody can see
me." But also, nobody can see me. I can
do whatever I want. So, she'll just like
be hanging out in a ball gown or in a
bull fighter's costume or whatever.
Like, she's just finding ways to
entertain herself at this point.
So, she gets called to reap another soul
and she shows up and she finds four very
hot soups battling hell hounds.
And she doesn't understand why, but she
gets kind of emotional at the idea of
one of them dying. And she's like, "This
hasn't happened since I started reaping
like 400 years ago." like because she
used to try to save people but she can't
intervene because she's not corporeal.
So she would try to save people and be
unsuccessful and then have to reap their
souls. And so she's like this hasn't
happened in a really long time. This is
really weird.
She's like I've spent 400 years learning
to compartmentalize.
Right.
This is not supposed to evoke these
emotions in me.
Right. Right. So, uh, one of the hell
hounds attacks the wraith, which is Zed,
but she doesn't know that.
And she is just like, "Fuck it." And
makes a wild attempt to try to stab the
hellhound. Um,
and she's like, "It's not going to do
anything, but I'll feel better if I
try." Except that it does work.
It is successful.
And she is staring down at this dead
hell hound, and she's like, "What?
crazy. And then she starts to feel this
pain in her neck and she turns and
there's a shifter standing there and he
has a sword to her throat and she can
feel it. And so she starts to laugh.
She's like, "I'm corporeal." She's just
like cracking up.
So we switch to Christian and he is
like, "She is a magical creature. Look
at her. She's so beautiful and so
insane. She's like, "Ever will kill
her." And she's just like, "This is
amazing." Have you guys felt grass?
Like, touch grass, you guys. Holy [ __ ]
She's like, "This is kill me,
please." Like,
right? Don't threaten me with a good
time. I'm tired. So, she's also wearing
a full ball gown and seems completely
unconcerned that all of them are
pointing weapons at her. She's like,
"Have you guys tried popcorn? I really
want to try popcorn. Do you think we
could do that? Do you think we could try
that?" I don't know how long I'm going
to be corporeal. We need to jump on this
[ __ ] Like,
they're all like, "What the [ __ ]
This is not the response we were
anticipating. We don't know how to
navigate this."
And so eventually they're like like
trying to like, "Who the [ __ ] are you?"
She's like, "I don't know. I reap souls.
I guess I'm a reaper, right? That makes
me a reaper. I don't know. Never met
another one. I don't know the rules.
Have you guys ever tried pancakes? She's
like, she's just woo. Um, and she's
like, "Well, but I saved him though."
And that's super cool, right? And nobody
knows what to make of it cuz they're
like, "Is she a threat? Is she
Yeah,
she just like appeared.
She appeared in a ball gown. Were you
the one controlling the hell hounds?
Like, did you summon them? Like, what
the [ __ ] And she's like, "Nope, I just
showed up. Don't know where I am." Like,
guess I'm a reaper, but not today. She's
like, "Woohoo."
So, Christian notices that Rafe, the
blood fay, is locked in on her. And he's
like, I don't know if I love the way
that he is looking at her because he is
really locked in.
Looking at her like she's his next meal.
Yeah. Very much uh learing was the word
that came to mind.
Learing. Yeah.
Like he is like it's a lot.
So
he also it they realize like oh nobody
has ever touched you. Like literally, no
one has ever
hugged her or
like they're realizing this in her
excitement about being her corporeal.
Yeah. Um and Christian is like, "It
should not turn me on that much that she
is untouched." But wouldn't you know, it
really does. I'm not sure I like that
color on me. He's like, "I don't know if
I like that about myself." I appreciate
his self-awareness cuz I also don't know
if I like that color on you.
Yeah. So,
I like when people like, "I'm not
jealous. I'm just possessive."
Like, okay.
Does that make you feel better to say it
that way? It doesn't change the outcome,
right? It's still weird and not very
healthy. Often, usually it's pretty
unhealthy. Um, but we switch back to um
Thea and she's like, "This is a direct
quote. I saved his life, so the least he
can do is buy me popcorn and maybe give
me some orgasms."
And orgasms that escalated quickly.
Well, because she's like, "Oh my god, I
can be touched. Like, this is awesome."
She's like, "Okay,
a girl has needs."
She does. But I think I also am like we
know nothing of her history. We know
nothing of like how she got there, how
long she's been like,
but she's trying to get it
well. And I'm also like what what's your
experience and knowledge of intimacy?
Zero zilch nothing like what she's seen
on TV
which is tel nollas which would be like
fade to black. So, like what
all I'm saying is if like your
experience with intimacy has mostly been
tel nollas,
I don't know if your first thought is
going to be like, I can't wait for the
orgasms they might be able to give me
cuz I saved their life.
That's fair.
It feels like we we like we jumped a few
steps ahead.
We did.
Sorry, Craig. I'm not trying to upset
you.
Craig the cat is in the studio with us
today.
Yes, he's joined us.
Yeah, he's snoozing. Um, so the guys are
like, "Uh,
I guess we're going to take you back to
our hotel room. Like, we can't just
leave you here. Like, how did you even
get here?"
Did she say the thing about orgasms to
them or just in her head?
Just in her head.
Okay. I was like,
just in her head.
I was like, I should clarify before
like, well, all we can do is take her
back to our hotel room.
Like,
she makes a good point, fellas. No. Um,
so she literally is like, I have no idea
what's going on. I have no idea when I'm
going to get pulled back to the room or
how long I'm going to be like in a
physical form. So, uh, I'm just along
for the ride. Hotel room sounds great.
Sure. And Everett is like very
suspicious of her and tries to take the
dagger that she uses to reap souls and
it like burns him. And so, um, he's
like, "You're clearly up to something."
And she's like, "I would love to be up
to something, but not in this case.
Like, I've got nothing."
She's like, "I didn't come here
voluntarily. I was like spit out by the
universe here." Yeah.
And then I helped you,
right? Like, don't take my dagger.
Right. Mind your business. So at this
point, Thea realizes that Rafe is like
staring at her and so she just waves at
him and he like waves back and all of
the guys are like, "Oh Jesus Christ."
They're like, "He is a fullblown
psychopath." Like all of the guys like
lock up cuz they're like, "Is he is he
waving at her? What the fuck?" They're
like, "Oh my god, he's drenched in
blood." And they're like,
which isn't just his usual state of
being. He's like usually drenched in
blood. It's a lot.
So he's the axle of the group.
Yes. Okay.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's the axel diesel
of the group. Yeah.
So,
um she she's like says out loud the
movies made it seem like making friends
would be really hard, but this is super
easy. I have four best friends and I
just got here. Incredible.
guys are like
they've all got whiplash.
I mean, transparently, I know we're not
that far in. She does seem kind of
exhausting.
She does, but I think it's because she's
just so excited. She does mellow. Um,
but one of them winds up giving her a
piggyback ride through the forest cuz
she's not wearing any shoes. And so,
they get to the motel. There's a whole
fight between Everett and Thea about
whether it's a hotel or a motel. And
it's like really ridiculous. But Everett
wants nothing to do with her at that
point. But Zed is very sweet for like
saving him and he wants to talk to her
about books cuz he loves books and it's
all very sweet. Um Christian brings her
some of their clothing for her to wear
um cuz they don't have any other
options.
And she's in a ball gown.
Exactly. So they can go out and get some
food. There is. I mean, I guess that's
better than being pulled to reap a soul
ny.
True.
Like like Whoops.
Sorry. Normally I have a little bit more
heads up and can put pants on first.
Normally nobody sees me so I don't worry
about it.
Um, so they get to the restaurant and it
is so awkward because the waitress is
hitting on her, but she thinks the
waitress is hitting on the guys and is
like weirdly possessive of them. And
then one of the guys is like, "Hey, uh,
you realize she's into you." And she's
like, "Me? Shut up.
Is it time to flirt?" And so she
attempts to flirt and it's brutal. It's
really brutal. But she does get the
waitress's number and the guys are like,
"Are you like interested in her?" And
she's like, "No." Like I don't know.
Maybe.
Like obviously it's not the plot, but
it's giving um
Tyra Banks and Life Size. Oh, very
different than Four Psychos.
That's
You know that was a guess that uh but
the excitability of uh
Tyra Banks.
Yes, it does give like brand new to this
world like learning new things and just
everything is exciting and all of that
stuff.
Got gadgets and gizmos of plenty.
Exactly.
So um
we switch to Christian. He realizes that
they need to talk to the gods because uh
in talking to her they realize someone
was holding her hostage. This is not
normal for reapers. Like there are other
reapers,
but they're just like normal soups. So
they're like something real [ __ ] up
happened to this
and she's like, "What?" And they're
like, "Oh my god." Like poor sweet angel
baby. She doesn't even know.
Yeah. Oh, honestly that feels better
already.
Yeah. Yeah. Like she had no idea. And
the guys are like, "Oh, fuck." Like
somebody did this to you. This isn't
normal.
So they decide they're going to speak to
Aphrodite,
who is Aries's ex.
Yeah, I was going to say not their god.
And no, that
why they causing drama?
Because she knows everything because she
loves gossip. So like if there was word
on the street about somebody holding a
reaper hostage, she would know about
she would have caught wind at some point
is the vibe.
Okay, I see.
And so the problem is that she always
tries to seduce them, but they know if
they ever like touched her that Aries
would kill them like swiftly even though
Aries and Aphrodite are not together. So
it's kind of ick. So
that does feel true to Aries and
Aphrodite though. I wouldn't say I
wouldn't say the gods of Greek mythology
are known for their healthy, stable
relationships.
No, they're not known for good emotion
regulation, I would say. But so they
broke up several centuries ago after
Aries fell in love with someone else and
Aphrodite was like unfucking acceptable.
So which is a valid boundary to hold.
Sure. True. Um there's a lot of context
in their relationship that is messy as
[ __ ] But um Christian is also thinking
like they show up and to her apartment
and she's like always in pasties and a
thong or something like really
ridiculous sort of attire and they make
um
never mind. I'm like what are what am I
saying? So Everett is like, "Hey, also
cuz she starts to get emotional cuz
they're like, "We need to
Aphrodite or Thea?"
Sorry, Thea. We haven't gotten to
Aphrodites yet. I thought we were
already there. We're just deciding to go
there.
But they're like going to sleep that
night. And Thea is like, I am afraid
that I'm not going to wake up here. Like
what happens if I disappear when I go to
sleep? And Everett of all people is
like, we will find you. like
you saved a member of our team, like we
are in your debt. We will find you." And
so she bursts into tears, which is
horrifying to all of these men. They're
like, "Oh my god, make it stop."
Whatever we need to do to make it stop.
Oh my gosh.
Somebody help me.
Watching men be that uncomfortable with
women crying is truly hilarious.
I know. Yeah, it is pretty funny.
Yeah.
Um, but we'll buy you all the popcorn in
the world. We'll figure out the orgasms.
We don't care as long as you stop. We
will give you what you want.
And so eventually she settles down and
they tell her she has to bunk with
Everett and Rafe, which she's like,
"What? I thought I was going to bunk
with Christian and Zed because they're
the nice ones." Like Rafe just stares at
me a lot in a really weird way and
Everett tries to steal my dagger and is
kind of a [ __ ] So,
but they're like, "Hey."
Christian is like,
"You can't be
I have to get away from her because he's
afraid of what his other half is going
to do at night." But she doesn't know
that.
No.
So,
she's like, "But he's just so nice. Why
are you making me hang out with the
weird dude who leers at me?"
Yeah.
Covered in blood.
Yeah. So Everett leaves the room for
some reason. So it's just Rafe and Thea
while she's in the shower. And he is
already like wildly obsessed with her.
And he's like, "I don't know why, but uh
I'm into that shit." So he hears her
like make a noise in the bathroom and
he's like, "Whoop, what's going on
there?
Better go in and make sure she's okay
and safe." So, of course, she's touching
herself. Um, and she has no
embarrassment at being caught because
she has no social understanding that
like most people would be embarrassed if
they got caught touching themselves.
I need to pause you here and tell you a
story about when I worked crisis.
All right, I'm buckled in. All right.
We had someone like we got a call that
was like, "We're on our way. Be ready."
with like a frequent flyer sort of
situation.
Sure.
They whip in the parking lot and what
looks like the Scooby-Doo van. They park
diagonally across like three spots. The
boyfriend gets out of the car to come
talk to all of us to tell us what's
happening. She's refusing to get out of
his car. It's this like very messy
situation.
Uhoh. Uhoh. So, we're all standing there
trying to figure out what to do. Police
are now there with us. We're all
watching her in this car that's not hers
trying to figure out what to do. And
suddenly, the entire [ __ ] Scooby-Doo
van is shaking.
Like full shaking. And one of the
officers goes up to try to talk to her
and she's like, "Tell that [ __ ]
to get away when I'm trying to get off."
And we're all like, "There's like 15 of
us standing around watching this woman."
Like, not watching her walk.
No, I know.
She was in a vent. Thank God. Um
Um and then as soon as we were like,
"Okay, we're going to open the car
doors. We're going to get her out." Um
her boyfriend was like, "She'll have a
seizure if you open the door." And I'm
like, "That's not how seizures work,
sir." Um but sure enough, as soon as we
open the door, she falls out on the
ground. Um
and then he's like, "The only thing that
helps is mouthto mouth.
Stop it right now."
So she's like laying down and a police
officer, poor guy. He must have been the
rookie.
Oh my god. straw all
performing mouth to mouth and she like
pops up off she like she's coming back
to life again.
Um yes and so whenever yeah public
masturbation
we also once did an assessment on
someone that was uh had been arrested
for public self stimulation. Um, and
they were like,
"It was an art piece." Like, they were
legitimately like, "This is my art that
I'm giving to the world." I'm like, "But
you can't do it on the street corner.
Like, I'm so sorry." Um,
yeah. So, those are the stories I
thought of, but yeah, like a full
Scooby-Doo van shaking as 15 people are
standing around watching it shake and
we're all like,
"Yeah."
M that was not Rafe's reaction
in this case.
No, I feel like he would volunteer for
mouth to mouth if it were Rafe.
So he doesn't touch her, doesn't get in
the shower with her, but starts giving
her instructions. There is some like
light degradation and dirty talk and
she's very into it. and she walks or he
walks away
cuz he's like she is not ready for this.
Like I'm too much for her, right? Um but
he's like yeah uh I'm I am fully sent
now. Like she will never get away from
me. And this is where he starts calling
her little bird. Um
Oh. So we got the first official
nickname.
We got the first official nickname. So,
is this like a faded mate situation or
they just like see her and they're like,
I want that one.
So, it's not a faded mate situation.
Okay. But there is going to be a reason
why they're also drawn to her.
Yes.
Okay. Sorry. I know sometimes I ask
questions that you're like, "Damn it,
Chelsea."
Well, that's the big twist. So, I'm
like, I want to explain it, but like I
can't yet. So, she goes to sleep after
all of this and she wakes up when she
realizes someone else is in the room.
Like, she feels somebody else in the
room and it's Christian, but it's not
Christian.
And so, um,
Chris is his daytime persona says, um, I
wondered what he was keeping from me. I
see now that it's you. You can call me
Chris.
And so he's a light elf during the day
and a dark elf at night. And neither
knows what the other is doing.
Sorry, got to pause us. So it's Chris by
day, Christian by night.
Flip it. Christian by day.
Christian by day. Chris by night. Okay.
And right now he's Chris saying this is
what Christian
day man.
Master of the night man.
champion of the sun.
I hope he also does karate. Um, just to
really round it out.
Yes. So, um, he tells Thea that he is
kidnapping her, but it's obviously a
choice. Like, if she had said, "No, I'm
not going with you." Like, obviously he
would leave her alone. But he's like,
"Well, clearly I'm kidnapping you."
Like, I'm kidnapping you. Let me hold
the door open and let you walk out.
Literally.
Okay.
So, he glamourred the other guys so they
would not wake up so that they wouldn't
interfere cuz he was like, "They're
going to try to stop me, but uh I don't
want to be stopped." So,
I mean, forward thinking.
Yeah.
We are strength based
planning ahead. Uh-huh. So he takes her
to a biker bar where he kicks down the
door and he's like who's got my money?
And Thea's like, "What money?" She's
like, "This is fun." She knocks over
like all of the bikes in the front by
accident, purely by accident. And he
then proceeds to whip out his bow and
arrow and shoot everyone with these
poison arrows and just like kills
everybody and just laughs while they all
die very slowly. And Thea is like, "What
the fuck?" She's like, "Uh,
what is happening? And why am I horny
about it?
It's so messy."
So, someone attacks her as Chris is like
taking out all of these other people.
And so, Chris,
these innocent bar patrons,
they're not innocent, but we don't know
that yet.
Okay.
So, um Chris then tortures the guy that
touches her, of course, and she is like,
"Hey,
please don't kill him." Like, currently,
nobody is dead. They are all just
actively dying. And she's like, "Please
don't kill him.
I don't know what being around a soul is
going to do to me. Like, I don't know if
I'm going to be
just had that question."
Yeah. Um,
but then I was like, I asked too many
very specific questions that aren't So,
I was like, I'm going to let it go. But,
so I'm really glad I got answer.
It was relevant. So, um,
yeah, cuz I was like, what happens if
there's a soul there? And then, like, if
she's drawn to it, I'm like, would it
pull her back to the room? Like, valid
concern. So, she doesn't know and she's
freaked out. And so, Chris is like, "Oh,
well, we can just go then." And she's
like, "Wait, what about your money?" And
he's like, "Oh, you know what? Funnily
enough, um, they didn't actually owe me
money. My mistake, short stack." And so,
this is where we get our second
nickname, Short Stack.
Follow-up announcement time.
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So when they get back to the motel, the
guys
he just like knocked them all out.
He just took them all out for no current
discernable reason.
But they're not actually dead. He just
like
they will be dying. It's just very very
slow because of the poison and the
arrows he uses.
Okay.
So that's he was why he
So it was more like a let's get out of
here before the souls are here. Not a
let's go before the cats show or
something.
They're all asleep. Let's leave before I
thank you for clarifying.
So this was a supernatural biker bar.
Of course. Silly me. So, when they get
back, the guys are all freaking the [ __ ]
out and Zed is extremely guilty that he
was fooled by Chris's glamour.
M.
So, they're extremely angry. And then
Christian is back because as they pull
in, like the sun rises and Christian
shows up and he has no memory of
anything that happened. And um
that must be so disorienting,
right? And so Thea is like, "What are
you talking about? I had a great time.
You kept me safe. It was fun. He's you."
And he's like, "No, you don't
understand. Like he's not me. He is a
psychopath. Like he has no impulse
control. Like he could hurt you." And
she's like, "No, he won't. He's you."
Like
it's the same same guy.
And so
she is able to see through the [ __ ]
Yeah.
In such a little bit form. Um, but she
did get hit in the face during the whole
kurfuffle and it's not healing very fast
and the guys are like, "Whoa, does this
mean she doesn't have supernatural
healing?" Like, that's terrifying and we
don't like it. So, we need to figure out
how to protect her.
Um, so they are getting ready to go out
to breakfast to get something to eat.
Um, and Everett bought her clothes and
they're all in the correct sizes and
everything. And so her immediate
response is, "How did you know my bra
size? I didn't even know my bra size.
How'd you do that?" And he's like, "Oh
my god."
He's like,
you know, just just staring at him a
bit.
Yeah. She's like, "Is that your
superpower? That's such a weird
superpower, but so fun. Do her. She's
like, it's like a carnival trick.
Yeah. Guessing your bra size.
So, I would be so bad at that.
Also, because they're
there are so many like high impact bras
that are like meant to compress and
minimize.
Yeah.
Your boobs are like three times the size
of mine. And I didn't know that for
years. Right. Cuz I keep them locked
down. Yeah, I would have lost like if
someone was like, "What size boobs does
Hannah have?" I would have not won that.
Yeah,
of course. I also hope no one randomly
asked me what size bra like that. I'll
have I'll probably have bigger questions
if someone asked me. Someone's like,
"Hey, Chelsea, call me real fast. Got a
question.
Do you know Hannah's bra size?"
Not for anything weird. Like, what?
Yeah, don't worry about it. Um, so Rafe
was gone. like they he disappeared
somewhere and they didn't know where he
was. And
he shows back up and he presents her
with a bouquet of severed fingers
because he went back to the bar and
finished everybody off, including the
guy that had touched her.
And the guys are all like, "What the
[ __ ] dude?" Like, you can't just be
showing up with severed fingers. But
she's like, "This is the sweetest thing
that anybody has ever done for me." And
the guys are like, "What the fresh [ __ ]
is happening?"
I get their confusion,
right?
So, this is when we go to Aphrodites.
Oh, okay. So, yeah, I see where
they were doing game planning and I
jumped ahead. So, they glamour Thea so
that Aphrodite won't see her or hear
her.
Um,
and Aphrodite likes to answer the door
in her skiibbies.
Yes. So, she is actively trying to
seduce the guys. And Thea is
is glamored and pissed.
Yeah. But also distracted by like the
wall of sex toys and dildos and [ __ ] on
the walls. She's like, "What does this
one do?" And the guys can see and hear
her, but Aphrodite can't. So, they're
all trying to keep a straight face and
trying not to look at her as she is like
messing with all of these sex toys and
asking what they all do. Um, and she
also gets very distracted because at one
point Aphrodite like leans over and you
can see she has like a vibrating butt
plug actively in her ass. And Thea is
like, "That's fascinating. Did she do
that? Like, how long has that been in
there? How long can you wear one of
those?" And she's like asking all these
questions and the guys are like, "Oh my
god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god."
Like, "Oh my god." Um,
your Aphrodite, I imagine time's not an
issue for how long you
leave that vibrating butt plug in.
Yeah. But the guys realize they can't
directly ask her about Thea because that
would be showing too much of their hand.
So they're like,
"Hades is over reapers." So they ask
okay Hades is over all of the reapers.
Yes. So they ask her if they if she
knows about Hades
kidnapping reapers or anything like that
and she gets very weird. Um and she's
like maybe you should try talking to
Athena. I don't know. Try talking to
Athena. And they she gives
like Aphrodite, the queen of tea, is
Yeah.
pushing us off.
Suspic.
Yep. That feels sus.
So she does give them Athena's location,
which Athena has been in hiding for
centuries because her team died.
It was a team of five and they were
herum
essentially like she was in love with
all of them and they all died in one
singular battle and at that point she
fully separated from the world and she
has been hiding ever since and she is in
the the labyrinth. So the labyrinth
where the minotaur was.
So um
great hiding place.
Yes. So that night they go to a
different safe house for the night. And
um Everett has not checked in with Aries
yet. He's like technically should have
done that several days ago when we
finished the job that he actually sent
us out on for the hell hounds, but like
I'm I don't want him to know about Thea
and I don't know why. So he's like I'm
just gonna we're just going to keep
doing
Should we have check in? Yes. Am I
trusting my gut that I like shouldn't
for some reason?
Yes.
Also, yes.
Your intuition knows.
Your intuition is always tugging you
where you need to go.
Yep. Listen to your instincts, people.
Some people might call that the Holy
Spirit, depending on what circles you're
in. Yeah. I don't think that's what they
call it in this book. No, no, I don't
know what they call it in this book. Um,
but Thea also realizes the her dagger is
gone. So, like they're at this safe
house and she's like, "Wait a second. I
had the dagger. I put it in my
waistband. It's not there anymore. Like,
did I drop it somewhere at Aphrodite's
apartment? Like, what the fuck?"
and she goes to use the bathroom and
realizes that it is on her skin like a
tattoo and she is like
um
uhoh
because the dagger makes her madness
worse.
Like she has to put it on the pedestal
to escape the madness. But like she
feels fine right now, but she's like
very confused about what the [ __ ] is
going on. So, she decides not to tell
the guys about what happened. She's
like, I just
I don't know, so I'm not going to tell
them. So,
yeah. Like, also, how do you describe
that within the context of all of this?
You're like, so you know that dagger you
tried to take off of me?
Remember how it burned you? Um, it's a
tattoo now.
Um,
was that um
I'm probably mixing up my books. Was
that here, Sexist Vampire? The Suzanne
Wright book. I
um I remember there being a book where
it was like a tattoo of a snake that
would then like come
to life and like could like
help them in battle.
Yeah, I think it was that one.
Dope tattoos if tattoos can do that for
you.
I would mostly have just flowers. I
don't know that my tattoos coming to
life would be very useful to anybody.
Um be great if I got hungry. I've got
cheesecake and orange blossoms.
Um,
sure.
I've got a muffin on my muffin top.
M, that is a good one.
Yep.
Yeah.
My cheapest tattoo. It only cost me $20.
Yeah, I feel that. That feels right. But
also, to be fair, a little the context
in which I got it, there was a dude back
in actually in Orlando.
Um, and he had worked at a shop and was
saving money to open his own shop. So on
his off day, we had a friend who had a
spare room in his house. And the dude
would bring his whole setup and do like
tattoos that for him were at a very
discounted rate because he wasn't having
to pay all of the overhead and like for
his shop. Then he was able to put all of
that towards opening a location
which was like his wife was like a belly
dancing instructor.
What a niche.
So when they opened the shop, it was
literally like half belly dancing like
yoga studio and half tattoo parlor,
but the waiting room for the belly
dancing was like in the tattoo. So I'm
like sitting there getting a tattoo one
day because I went back to him after he
opened the shop.
And like girls are coming in with like
their jangles on. I don't know what
they're actually called. I don't think
they're called jangles. But it was like
a very I'm like this feels like a weird
thing. There's like four women with
belly dancing jangles watching me get
tattooed right now.
I feel like I've read that book. Like I
know that I haven't, but I feel like I
have, you know.
Yes, 100%. So yes, the the muffin was
from when he was saving money to open
his own shop.
Noted. And you contributed.
I did.
Yeah. Like
love that.
Not much to be fair.
20 bucks.
But I did also contribute when he opened
his real shop and I went back to him.
Even better.
So it counts.
It does count.
All right. Anyway, she has this dagger
on her side.
Yeah. And she's like, I'm just going to
not mention that. And Christian comes to
talk to her and basically apologize for
Chris and she's like, "You don't need
to. I'm not scared of you. Like,
you would never hurt me.
Chris would never hurt me. Like, what is
not connecting for you?" Like, she's
like, "It's it's not that hard to
understand. This is very simple math."
And at that point,
they immediately [ __ ] like they
immediately [ __ ] as soon as she's like,
"No, you don't." Like, "I'm not scared
of you. They just start making out and
he's inside her." My notes say, "No
foreplay." And at this point, Thea is
like, "You know, I've seen on TV that
like it hurts the first time, but uh it
sure doesn't."
What is on her TV?
I don't know. It
I don't know. I'm assuming she's just
watching tel nollas all day, which I
recognize is probably not true, but it's
getting interspersed with the prices,
right? Neither of those
is explaining
the biological components of virginity.
She does mention movies, so I mean,
she's engaging with media, but she's
like, I don't really care. It didn't
hurt. This is [ __ ] awesome. Like,
yeah. She's like, you know, everything
led me to believe this would be
horrible, but it was great.
Mhm.
And at that point, Christian's like,
"Hey, uh, have you always had the, uh,
dagger tattoo? That that tattoo right
there?" And she's like, "Ah, fuck." And
as she's trying to figure out what to
say, Chris takes over. And so, she
doesn't have to worry about it. And they
just continue to [ __ ]
And here is where we find out that Chris
does actually remember everything from
the daytime.
Oh, so Christian doesn't, but Chris
does,
right? So, um,
which makes sense considering he'd been
like, oh, you're who he was trying to
keep from me.
Yeah. So, he's like, we are literally
the same person. I am just the darker
impulses. And he doesn't want to accept
that. And so, that's why we're separate.
It's not because we're separate people.
Like, but his hair color changes, his
eye color ch like he he does physically
change when that happens. I remember
watching a documentary about someone who
had dissociative identity disorder
and when they would shift into an altar,
their vision would change and they would
have to put on like prescription
glasses.
That's fascinating.
Yes. And like another person who like um
when one their altar like had diabetes
and they didn't
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Yes. That is what is mind-blowing to me
about the idea.
So cool.
Yes.
Not cool is the wrong word.
I knew what you meant, but yes.
Fascinating.
So
he basically tells Thea like, "Hop back
on it, babe. Like, let's keep going."
And he's like, "No, I remember what you
were just doing. Put that thing down,
flip it, and reverse it, baby girl."
Yeah, for real.
Short stack. What does he call her?
He does call her Short Stack. Do
Christian and Chris have different
nicknames or do they call her the same
thing?
Christian doesn't have a nickname for
her
yet. Yet it does stay short stack once
eventually. But
okay.
So, and at this point she's like, I know
this is really weird, but like
I'm kind of into you. And he's like,
jokes's on you. I'm super into you. He's
like, and so they have this weird moment
of like declaring feelings.
And so she asks Chris to stay with her
until she falls asleep.
Do you have feelings for Chris Christian
or is it just the moment that you're
swept up in?
She really does. She really does have
feelings for him. And when Chris gets up
and leaves the room, all of the guys are
in their like safe house living room
like, "You son of a bitch." Like we
heard all of that. Um, and so at that
point, Chris is like, "I don't have time
to soothe your egos or whatever. Ray, if
you're coming with me, we're going back
to Aphrodite." She was lying and none of
you were man enough to say [ __ ] about it
at the time. So, we're going to go back.
So,
they do go back and she is, of course,
having an orgy and is a bit distracted.
So, they decide to search her apartment
and they find a weird little sketchbook
with runes on it that match Thea's
dagger.
And it says on the sketchbook that it is
property of Athena. And they're like,
"Oh, okay. So, we need to find Athena
right now. This isn't like a maybe
she'll have some information. Like, she
clearly knows something."
Yes.
So over breakfast they are talking about
like how to get through the labyrinth
and how to get to Athena, how to ask her
for help.
I know he won't be there, but I'm just
imagining the movie Labyrinth
and David Bowie.
I did imagine David Bowie at a certain
point when there's like an old lady
oracle who comes out. I was like it'd be
better if it was Bowie. Um, but anyway,
so as they're at breakfast kind of
talking through what they're going to
do, Thea sees a frog hopping across the
table and like nobody's reacting and
she's like, "Oh, is it how is nobody
am I the only one who sees it? What's
happening here?"
Right? And so at this point, she
confesses that the dagger is tattooed on
her skin. Um, and
she explains that when she reaps a soul,
she hallucinates stuff. Like, she goes
fully mad when she reaps a soul. And it
only stops when she returns the dagger.
And so, she's like, "Listen,
if this is all temporary, thank you
guys." Like, just so you know, like, if
I go insane,
I love you guys. Not I love you guys,
but like, thank you guys. I appreciate
you all so much.
And they're like, "Nope, we're not doing
that. we're going to the labyrinth right
now. Like, we're gonna get this figured
out. So, they complete a bunch of trials
and obstacles and all of these different
things that I'm not going to get into.
Like, they fight an oracle. Um, and
during all the chaos,
the the knife shows up in Thea's hand,
like when she needs it to protect one of
the guys. and she kills the creature
that was going after one of the guys,
the oracle. And as soon as the creature
dies, she starts scratching at her arms
and she starts saying like, "They're
here. They're here." And she's like
having like a full breakdown and the
guys are like,
"What is happening?
What the [ __ ] are we supposed to do with
that?" Right? So, um, they Everett is
like carrying her. He's trying to calm
her down
and she just keeps crying and she won't
stop and she's not really responding to
them anymore. And they wind up at
another obstacle that like reveals
memories of their past to them. And so
he has memories of his childhood.
Which one? Sorry.
Everett is the shifter.
Okay.
Yeah. the team leader, the shifter.
Sorry, am I? I'm like, yeah, she's with
all the guys and like
all of them, all the people.
And they're like, and then this one I'm
like, "Oh, no. I I missed that. That's
on me."
So, he h has memories of his dad um who
is a dick, like training him before
turning him over to Aries and basically
being awful to him. And then he
remembers meeting all the guys for the
first time at the compound. And at that
point, he starts to like then remember
Thea and like finding her in the forest
and he's like feeling all of these
different things. And he's like, "Oh,
part of why I've been such a dick to her
is because like I really care about her
and I feel like I care about her more
than I should because I don't know her
and like I don't understand what's
happening."
Yeah. like I feel this pull towards her
that like I don't know why and so I'm
naturally fighting it.
Yeah. And at this point he's like okay
so
I am going to save her and then I am
going to prove that I deserve her
because I've been a dick to this point
and I clearly don't deserve her right
now. So like I'm going to figure it out.
So Thea is having a full breakdown. The
guys are trying to stop her from hurting
herself when this woman suddenly appears
and she does something that knocks Thea
out. Like the woman like does some kind
of mojo and Thea goes down
like puts hands on her or Okay.
Yeah. I know it's not it's not the same,
but what it reminded like thinking of
like oh every time she like uses the
dagger she like starts hallucinating. Do
you remember that show Eye Zombie?
Yeah.
Where like she helped solve crime
just by eating brains.
Every time she ate the brains she'd like
have the visions. Like that's so
ridiculous.
That's what I thought of. It's like, oh,
when she reaps their soul with the
dagger, she like starts having these
visions and that's what like sets this
all off
kind of. Um, so when Thea wakes up, it's
the woman is Athena. And
well, the funniest part was I was about
to be like, "Oh, is this the oracle?"
Then I was like, "No, you just mentioned
that they had been fighting the oracle."
Yeah. So this I was like, "Okay, so it
has to be
it's Athena."
Athena.
Yeah. So, she tells
Athena everything that she remembers,
everything she knows, everything that's
happened.
And um Athena says that she does
recognize the runes because she made
them.
Um and they trap souls and transfer
power. So, it is not reaping a soul and
sending it to the underworld. It is
reaping a soul and using it as a
battery.
And so
she's like, "Hey, yeah." So what this
means is someone is collecting a lot of
power, like accumulating
insane, terrifying amounts of power, and
we don't know who it is.
Well, like how often was Thea being like
pulled?
Several times a day. Like up to a
hundred times a day. up to a hundred
times a day.
Yeah.
Oh, no wonder she's so chaotic.
And that's when the guys realize like
because they didn't know that until this
moment when Athena asks and she's like,
"Oh, like I would go out like, you know,
maybe a 100 times was probably like my
most." But, you know, averaging 50 or 60
a day probably. And the guys are like,
"Holy [ __ ]
for 400 years this was your life." For
400 years you've been like reaping
Yeah.
three souls an hour.
Yeah. Like true. Like of course you're
insane. I'd be insane.
A So
poor Thea.
We also find here that the souls are
actually trapped in the dagger. So the
hallucinations that she is experiencing
are the souls screaming like to be let
out. And her mind can't tolerate it
anymore. like it's been four centuries
of it and her her mind is like unable to
take on anymore. And so Athena is like,
"Hey,
I'm going to put a fix in place." Which
is part of why Thea passed out. She's
like, "I put a wall up.
It is not a permanent fix. This is very
temporary." But
okay, so we like Athena.
We do like Athena a lot. Athena is good,
which we find out right now. Um,
right. Well, and I'm like, I don't I
can't get emotionally vested into like
rooting for Athena and her being a safe
space to find out she's not.
She's really lucky. Um, and so Athena is
like, "Hey, you need to find the person
responsible
before my fix breaks down."
Like, it it it's not going to be
forever. And so they're like, "Okay,
well, I guess we need to start with
Hades, but going straight to Hades seems
like a bad idea. So we're going to go to
his right-hand man, Cberus, which is the
three-headed dog, which it turns out is
Everett's dad. So Everett is a Cberus
shifter. He's a three-headed dog
shifter, and that's why it's a secret
because he's one of two." Yeah, I was
going to say I didn't know that there
could be shifters of that variety. So,
bestkept secret in the underworld.
For sure.
For sure.
Your dad is Hades, right hand man.
Mhm.
And I was picturing from the children's
cartoon Hercules, the swirling pool of
souls.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
That So, yeah. Hades makes complete
sense.
Mhm. Mhm. So that night they have a very
quiet night at the safe house. Everett
wants to show Thea that he cares, but
he's like not sure how to like approach
her and stuff cuz he's been so cold to
this point. So he falls asleep and he
dreams of his childhood training with
his dad
and he remembers being fully terrified
of Hades. Like he was like, "This was
not like a fun uncle." Like Hades is
[ __ ] scary, dude. He's like, "I'm
willing to do it for Thea, but like this
is going to suck."
Yeah. He's like, "This is not like a
sweet family reunion that's about to
happen. This is a terrifying situation."
Yeah. So he wakes up because Thea is
putting a blanket over him on the couch
and they have a very sweet moment where
he confesses his feelings and his
gratitude. And um Thea is like, "Are you
serious? I thought you like hated me."
And he's like, "No, of course I could
never hate you." And it's like, "You
could though. It's been 3 days." So like
at that point he kisses her and um she
is like pushing for more and he's like
no I am not going to [ __ ] you until I
deserve it. I'm like why are we making
sex transactional? That's weird. But I
can also appreciate that he wants to
make their emotional connection more
solid before he goes for the physical
side. Um,
what a healthy positive reframe there
because I like
I was really trying.
I sighed. I was like, I was really
trying. What?
I was really trying. So, he leaves her
on the couch like all hot and bothered.
And so, of course, um, when she goes
back to her room, Rafe is there and he
is
and he's more willing to help
so much more. He's covered in scars,
which she's fascinated by. I was about
to ask if he was still covered in blood
and then you're like he's covered in I
was like again and then you're like
scars
scars not blood this time because it's
he has to bleed for his magic so he has
like little tiny scars everywhere
and um
my words or my words my notes say kinky
times ensue safe word is watermelon tied
up degradation talk tit slapping for
punishment
She really went from 6:00 to midnight
with the sex.
Yeah, she did. She did. She's very into
it though. Um, and eventually
Rafe flips her over and at that point
she looks towards the door and sees that
Zed, the sweet, quiet Wraith, has been
watching this whole time. And um,
that's not a turnoff.
It is not. So she gives him a [ __ ]
Everybody finishes. It's a great time.
My notes say subspace sleepy time
because she describes like floating and
being like like kind of high and like
feeling [ __ ] up a little bit. She's
like
and then they all go to sleep.
I hope all of these supernatural beings
know about afterare.
They do. Okay.
Yeah, they take good care of each other.
So the next day, although it is much
less described on page as in other
books, which I do appreciate, but they
do take care of each other. So then the
next day they portal to the underworld.
Um, and
it it's very freaky how they like have
to go through one at a time and it's all
a lot and then they have to cross the
river sticks and the guys give Thea like
a breakdown of the afterlife, like all
the different places people can go, all
that kind of stuff. But they're like,
uh, there should be souls here. Like
there are no souls on the banks waiting
to be taken across the river. They're
like, "That's weird. This is a little
odd."
Do you remember that movie Scoop? The
Woody Allen movie.
No.
Oh, Hugh Jackman, Scarlett Johansson.
Oh.
About like like there was a magician.
Sure.
Played by Woody Allen.
There was a murder.
Sure.
They're trying to solve it. But a
journalist
who passed away gets the scoop for the
murder while he's crossing the river
sticks. And so he like shows up like at
this magic show and he's like, "I need
to get you the information so you can
solve the murder." So he tries to like
do a seance.
No, it's more like
from the other side.
Yeah. I Well, I guess maybe like Yeah.
Like Scarlett Johansson is like in the
box. And suddenly like the journalist
shows up and he's like, "You need this
information to solve this murder." And
then he like fades away.
But Woody Allen is the magician whose
like show Scarlett Johansson is at.
Did I tell you that was my um Halloween
costume was a seance? I wore my Ouija
board sweatshirt and then I put my hair
in space buns and put tissues over them
and drew little faces on them so they'd
be ghosts.
Yeah, that's honestly really good.
So anyway, so Thea is under another
glamour to hide her.
Mhm.
Um and Everett is like, "Let me do all
the talking. This is my dad, whatever."
But the glamour doesn't work because
they're in the underworld and the magic
works differently. And so
Cberus is like um tries to take the uh
to Hades
um and he's like you're a reaper but
you're not
like an active reaper because I know all
of them. Like this is [ __ ] weird.
We're going to see the boss and
Oh, so even he's like this shouldn't be
happening right now.
Mhm. He's like, "This ain't right."
But the guys don't know if that's
because like they had a like some kind
of scheme going on or if like somebody
else had her like. So they're trying to
figure out how to protect her. So
Everett fights his dad and the other
guys are trying to figure out how to get
Thea out because he's actively trying to
take Thea from them to
Okay. So he's not saying this is weird.
Let's all go to Hades together.
He's a dick. He's like, "You're coming
with me
full stop." And the guys are like, "N."
So at that point, Hades shows up
and he
grabs Thea's throat and is like, "I will
snap her neck." Everybody [ __ ]
freeze. And they're like, "104, boss.
Got it. That'll get your attention." And
they get taken to the throne room by a
bunch of guards. It's a whole thing. And
Hades is like, "How are you alive?"
So even Hades is confused.
Yeah. He's like, "Where the [ __ ] have
you been?
Where have you been?"
Yes. He's like, "You've been missing for
over 400 years. Where the [ __ ] have you
been?" And she's like, "I literally
don't know." She's like, "I I would So,
have you seen the room? Like, I don't."
Yeah. So then the he asks the guys like,
"What do you guys remember?" And they're
like, "What? We remember her showing up
and saving Zed." Like I none of us know
what's going on
like to a situation she just randomly
got pulled to as well.
And we realize here the guys don't
really remember their lives before they
were put into their like stasis sleep
thing for several centuries. They have
like little snapshots of childhood, but
they don't really remember like all of
their training and stuff. So, at that
point, um, Hades reveals that Thea was
the fifth and final member of their
team.
So, she had been with them while they
were training.
And so Hades is like, "I don't know how
all of your memories got wiped, but you
guys were a unit."
Oh, so that's not supposed to happen.
They're not supposed to lose their
memories as part of this thing.
So he's like, "I don't know how this
happened. Thea's been gone 400 years.
You guys were a unit. You all trained
together. You grew up together."
Like, so I see. At this point, Pphanie
shows up and is [ __ ] bizarre. She is
like, "Oh my gosh, look at you. Like,
I'm so excited to see you. We never have
guests. I'm so happy you're here." And
it's very like, "Are you all right?"
Like, "What are you doing?" She's
getting like emotional and like misty
eyed and it's like, "What? What is
happening?"
And so she's like continuously staring
at Thea and she seems very lonely and
emotional and it's just [ __ ] weird.
And so eventually she leaves and Thea
and Zed are alone and emotional and
having a very difficult time like
processing
centuries were stolen from us. Like how
did this happen? And so they start
making out.
Zed and Thea finally bang
and he tells her like, "Yeah, you know,
I've I've never been with anyone except
you apparently." Because they start to
realize like they weren't just like a
team. They were in a poly. Yeah, they
were a team team. And so she's like, "Oh
my god, you waited for me."
Like I don't hold it against the other
guys for not because they didn't
remember me, but like you did. You
waited for me. And it's a very emotional
declarations of love. Um
and Thea is just basically her world has
been rocked and all of the guys like
their world has been rocked.
I mean, yeah, cuz like I do I do feel
like we got some answers, but I do feel
like for every answer we got, we got
several additional questions. More
questions. So
Christian wakes up the next day and he
realizes that he has merged with Chris
cuz he remembers the night before. Not
only that, but his appearance has
changed. So he like his hair before
would be blonde with like blue streaks
and then red streaks and whatever. And
now it's like a mix of the two and all
of these different things. Um,
and my notes say he's so excited he
decides to wake Thea up with Oral.
Um,
well, I would be excited if I learned to
embrace my dark side as well.
Yeah. But, and this is I appreciated
this. He like goes to start and then
he's like, "Wait a minute. I have not
received consent for this. That'll have
to be for next time." So, he very gently
is like, "Tha, wake up. I'm so excited."
also next time. And she's like, "Yes."
Like,
uh, appreciate that. Um,
you know, we really do appreciate that.
Mhm. And then they get taken to Hades.
So, guards show up and they're like,
"Time to see the boss. Love that for
you."
Um, also Rafe apparently killed a guard
who was too rough with Thea the day
before and she's like, "Oh my gosh, more
fingers for my bouquet. You're so
thoughtful."
Cuz he like preserved them for her.
Like it feels like she's in the Adams
family.
Yes, it it is very much those vibes. Um,
and so,
um, then they have breakfast with Hades
and Praphanie. Um, and Pphanie is like,
"You can have, if you like the room that
you were staying in, this can be your
permanent room and you can redecorate
however you want and all this other
stuff." And they're like,
"We're not staying.
Oh, we're not coming back here. This is
[ __ ] weird and stressful."
So eventually they get down to business
and start discussing it and Hades
reveals that the underworld is broken
and they don't know why it's not taking
new souls.
So like all of the people who die, all
of those souls are just stuck on the
earthly plane and the underworld is like
refusing to accept new people. And it's
really, really bad. And it's because
Thea caused an imbalance. So, she was
reaping souls and eventually the
underworld sort of realized that it
wasn't getting the souls it was supposed
to have. And so, it's all [ __ ] up now.
Um, which is not Thea's fault.
No, cuz in her head, she's just been
like reaping the souls that she's
supposed to reap as a reaper,
right? So, at this point, they're like,
"Okay, so how do we free the souls from
the dagger?" because that's the
solution, right?
Um, that'll get rid of my madness.
That'll fix the underworld. And he's
like, "I'm so sorry, child. There is
nothing we can do for them. The life
force of a god is the only way to free
them." So, they would have to kill a god
for that.
And then they go to leave and Pphanie is
like very emotional and she's like,
"You'll come back, right?" And it's
like, "Girl, are you good?
Blink twice if you're okay." Which wear
yellow. Like, are you Oh my god. I mean,
if you know the story, then you know
she's not okay.
She's not okay.
I once got into a debate with a kid who
was like I think I was like
a sophomore in college. I don't know. I
was probably like 19ish.
He was in high school and was an like
literal genius like Mensa like
sure. But we were talking about Greek
mythology and we were talking about
Pphanie and we got into a debate on the
number of pomegranate seeds that she
ate.
Yes. He this [ __ ] 16-year-old
was like dead ass like it's three. And I
was like, I literally took Greek
mythology as a like college level course
last semester. It was six. He went I am
a literal genius was his whole argument.
And
well that doesn't mean you have the
facts. you remember incorrect facts.
He was like genius. He's like, "I'm a
Mensa member." And his mom was like,
"Oh, hey, baby. No, that's like not
that's not how you think it is."
Like, you can't just say, "I'm smarter
than you, so I've won this argument."
That's not how it works.
Yes. would like so funny to look back on
this mom trying to like oh no
a 16-year-old being like I'm a literal
genius and you're not
in the room so
oh my gosh once
so nurse practitioners mast's level for
the most part right um some like there
are doctor level but most nurse
practitioners I know are masters level
um LPC's LCSSWS LMFTs All also masters
level
at least. Y
at least. Yep. And we had a nurse
practitioner who worked at my company
like when I did community mental health
and we like there was like a big
staffing for this situation and like
like the chief whatever person was there
who's like an LCSW and the nurse
practitioner once a dead ass went I have
the highest degree in this room. So what
I say for this client's treatment will
be how we move forward.
H
I'm sure that didn't go how she thought
it would go.
I'm also like what how like you have
your what do you what level of degrees
do you think every single
person all licensed by the state [ __ ]
we all have masters?
Yeah. I'm like oh that is that's bold.
That's bold bold
shots have been fired.
Yeah. I think she wasn't at the company
within like 6 months of that.
Yeah, those sorts of folks don't tend to
last in my experience.
Yeah, the the collaborative people are
the ones who last. Absolutely. So,
sorry. I know. I
That's okay.
Sidrack is being weird.
Praphanie is being weird and they leave.
They decide now is the time to be
collaborative and go back to the
compound.
Um,
rub one out
to check in with Aries
or that. Yeah.
Oh, but this is the first time they're
checking in with him, right? They still
haven't checked in with Aries yet. Okay.
So, Rafe is like, Aries is a shady
[ __ ]
I don't have any proof for that, but I
don't like him.
But he is.
He's like, but I don't like him.
And so, they confront him while Thea is
cloaked, glam, whatever. And because
they're back earth side and they're
like, "So, we had a fifth member. Like,
what the fuck?" And Aries is like,
"Whoa, are you are you talking about
Winnie?"
And they're like, "Who? Winnie?"
Yeah. Wifred.
And Aries tells them
from the Wonder Years.
Yes. All or my cat.
No other winner of Fred should be
also called Fred, not from Hocus Pocus.
So, um
I am learning in this moment that Fred's
full name is Winter Fred. I just thought
you had a female cat named Fred for
years.
Yeah. No, her government name is Wifred.
It's on all of her prescriptions.
On all of her prescriptions. She has a
lot of them. She has issues. So,
are you talking about Winfred? You're
like,
"Yeah." No, wait.
They're like, "Are we? You tell me the
[ __ ]
Who am I talking about?"
And Aries is like, "Hey, I never hurt
her. I was in love with her. Like, I
loved her."
And at that point, Christian drops the
glamour. And I don't remember if it was
intentional or if it was like they were
so shocked that it just happened. But at
that point, Aries grabs Thea and starts
pulling her to him. And at that point,
Thea's memories return.
And she remembers first meeting all the
guys as children. She remembers falling
in love with them and growing up with
them and all of those really lovely
things. She recalls Aries becoming
increasingly obsessed with her and like
stalking her and like all this really
crazy [ __ ]
And she finally recalls the guys trying
to stop him when he like went after her
and all of them got knocked out and then
it he kills her or he thinks he does. He
thinks that he killed her in a fit of
rage or whatever
in her memories like not in this moment
but okay.
So when she comes back to the present
she tells the guys, "Holy [ __ ] like it
was Aries." Like Aries like
knocked you guys out. He did all these
things. Like he's the one. And so it's
an immediate beatd down. Like all of the
guys go at him at one time and Thea is
about to kill him with her dagger and
they're like, "Please don't. Like we
will lose you. Like this will break the
wall. Like the soul of a god is going to
like [ __ ] you up. Like you can't." But
also, won't it save the underworld? Uh
well unclear.
Okay. Because then Hades shows up and he
is pure rage. pure rage. And he's like,
"Yeah, so you will be going to the
deepest, darkest parts of the underworld
to suffer for eternity for what you have
done."
And just solves the problem, takes takes
Aries and disappears. Well, snaps his
fingers and Aries disappears. And then
Thea is like,
"Why are you helping us?" Because the
whole time like while they were in the
underworld he seemed kind of like
ambivalent towards her
and he's like he just says because I
created you and then disappears and
she's like cuz he created all reapers
like I what is happening right now.
So,
um,
finally everybody [ __ ] Everybody's
[ __ ]
Um, also my notes
really impressed that they're fitting
the [ __ ] in with all of this plot cuz
there's a lot happening in this book for
them to be [ __ ] between the
discoveries,
right? Well, and it's just Everett this
time. Um, cuz he sends the guys out to
do something. And my notes say,
apparently Everett's dick is a weapon of
mass destruction. declarations of love.
That's what my notes say. So then
they're snuggling and suddenly Thea
starts to feel this like pull on her
chest like she does when she's being
called to reap
and she starts to hallucinate again. She
starts seeing like the walls are are
bleeding and like this crazy [ __ ]
And she's like clearly the wall is
coming down. And so she's like, "Listen,
I love you. tell the others I love them.
I'm so sorry. And she gets yanked away.
And she's back in the room.
Does she retain her memories this time?
Yes.
Okay.
So, at this point, she realizes the
dagger will cut through the walls. So,
she has been trying to break the walls
down with her hands or whatever
she can get to all this time, and it
hasn't worked. But in a fit of rage and
fear, she uses the dagger and it works.
And she stumbles out of her prison into
Aphrodite's apartment
because it turns out Aphrodite was livid
that Aries was in love with her.
And so she decided to punish Thea for
that. Took her, wiped her memory.
Um, and she is livid because the gods
never took her seriously as like the
goddess of love. And she's like, "Now
I'm more powerful than all of them
because she has all of this amassed
power from these souls." Um, so there is
a huge fight scene. Lots of [ __ ]
happens. Um,
Thea at this point saves Potty the
cactus if you recall from the very
beginning. She's like, "I will not
abandon Potty again." and like scoops
her up. And um at that point then the
guys show up with Athena. Um and so Thea
realizes she has to kill Aphrodite to
free the souls. And she's like, "This is
a risk I'm going to have to take. Like
this is a sacrifice I need to make." The
guys are all begging her to stop, but
she just she says, "I love you." And
then I die is what it says in the book.
And so then Theo wakes up in Hades's
throne room.
It's such a it's such a journey because
he's like, "Turns out I'm your dad."
Turns out So when he said, "I created
you. I'm your dad."
Adopted dad. Because Pphanie wanted a
baby. They couldn't naturally have them.
Thea didn't have any parents as an
infant and he was like, "Cool,
I'll call Dibs."
Yeah. And so,
so the way in which Pphanie has been
acting has been like,
"Yeah, it's her child."
Her child
that she's been missing for 400 years.
So, it all makes so much. It's like,
"Oh, I'm so sorry that I thought you
were weird.
You were just really excited to see your
baby. I'm so sorry.
Do you want your room here? Do you want
me to redo?" Like,
yes.
Yeah. You can come back anytime. you'll
come back, right? Like, oh my heart. So,
at this point, Hades offers her a deal.
You can be my personal reaper
and you can train the new reapers. Live
with your men. Come visit when you can.
Spend time with Pphanie between jobs.
Um,
that's all I ask. And she's like, "What
is happening? like you clearly don't
like care for me. And he's like, "Yeah,
no, I don't. I don't love you." Um, but
I do care about what happens to you and
I feel responsible for you and Pphanie
loves you. And he's like, "The only
person I'm capable of loving is Pphanie
and so like you are as close to loving
another person as I'm ever going to get
and this is the best deal I can cut
you." It's very weird. It's very weird.
I I don't love that.
Yeah. So, she immediately accepts the
deal, of course, because she's like,
"This is the only way she's getting back
to her men, otherwise she's going to
fade."
And so, Thea then returns to her body.
And um it there's declarations of
feelings. All the guys are there.
Devotion.
Amazing. Group sexy times ensue. Um,
yeah. And
that there's so much I have so much in
here about BJ followed by sex DP with
Christian in her ass. And I'm like Rafe
is coordinating everything,
choreographing, like telling everybody
where to move and what to do. And um all
the guys edge her because they're like
Rafe is like you are being punished for
leaving us until finally she comes. It's
amazing. Everybody's really happy and
they're like okay well it's time to
start our life together. So here we go.
And we're at the epilogue. So Thea and
the guys are training teams to hunt
rogue soups because everybody realizes
the one team at a time rule was stupid.
didn't make any sense. So, they have
volunteers now instead of like plucking
people from their families. Um, and Thea
is very, very rarely called by Hades to
reap a soul. Um, but she thinks that
Hades just wants an excuse to bring her
to the underworld sometimes to see
Pphanie and spend a little time with her
cuz he's very awkward, but like it seems
like he wants to connect, but like
he doesn't know how to do that. So,
it seems like Hades is giving as much of
himself as he
Yeah.
knows how to give.
Yes. And I will give him credit for
that. I think the wording earlier
could have been better.
Yeah. Felt
like not my favorite.
I don't think those were his exact
words, but basically it was like, "Yeah,
no, I'm not capable of love." He's like,
"No."
Yeah.
Obsession with Pphanie.
Sure. Yeah.
Yeah.
So, uh, mostly she's just with the guys
hanging and banging and having a great
time. And in the epilogue, she finally
gets to try popcorn and it is everything
she wanted it to be. And that's the end.
So all of the souls are still in her
when she killed Aphrodite.
The souls were released.
Okay. To the underworld.
Yes.
So everything's back in balance.
Okay. So, I did leave out Athena had
like a separate plot line, but it was
going to be way too much cuz there's
already so much plot. Um, so that was
really nice. Like that got a bow on it
too and like all of those other like
everything really came together in the
end. But I did enjoy it because it was
not like I didn't see a lot of the
twists coming like I was like, "Oh,
okay." Like, "Oh, whoa." Like, "All
right." I would agree with that. Like,
yeah,
because I it's certainly not JS Scott.
We love our girl Jan, but like we know
we know where we're going when we start
a JS Scott novel. In this one, I can
legitimately say there were words coming
out of your mouth that I was like, "Oh,
oh, oh, oh, I didn't see that coming."
Mhm. Yeah. What's our rating system? I
was just thinking of that. Daggers,
popcorn kernels.
Um, Ford is currently really obsessed
with popcorn. Popcorn is delicious.
And it's really funny because we've been
working on like he's like a very quiet
kid, so we've really been working on
trying to like get him to talk more.
Um,
and so now in the mornings he's been
like, "Popcorn?" And I'm like, "No,
baby, that's not a breakfast food. I'm
so That's an after school snack.
He's like, "It could be if you were cool
about it."
Yeah. If you tried hard and believed in
yourself, Mom, we could all be having a
great time this morning.
We could all be having popcorn for
breakfast.
Yeah. But he's obsessed with it. And so
like he'll like take me into the pantry
and point popcorn like with just this
expectation in his eyes and like,
"Sorry, bro. You can have that later."
Matt is also obsessed with popcorn. He
probably has it two or three nights a
week as like a snack.
Oh, yeah. And I know Vance is also
obsessed with popcorn. Like, and I don't
know if Matt is the same, but like so a
long time ago on a work link, there was
an icebreaker question that was like,
"So, if you're the deity of a religion,"
and I was like, "Go on." They're like,
"And people were taking communion."
Yep. Yeah.
For you, what would your sacraments be?
Mhm.
And um
I don't remember what I said, but I do
remember that icebreaker.
I think I remember posing it to you. I
remember
Yeah.
being on a different team at that point,
but Vance
movie theater
like popcorn with like offensive amounts
of butter and a green point cocktail,
which like I don't know if that would
still be his drink at this point. I
would probably put him more in the hot
tea realm because
he does love a hot tea
and he has like a glass of wine
quarterly. So, I'm like, we're not
Yeah.
I'm not I'm not sure if a cocktail is
like what I would say represents him in
this stage, but
what would you say for Matt? Popcorn.
Popcorn and probably a watermelon Red
Bull.
I can't take that sacrament. I'm sorry.
Me either. Me either. Like, I can't
stand Red Bull. It's so gross of any
flavor to me. I'm like
But he really likes the watermelon. He
has one like every day. Really? Yeah. I
learned something. Yeah. Yeah. So,
popcorn or daggers? Popcorn. We've been
on popcorn. Also, sorry, going back to
the book really fast.
Does it stay as a tattoo now when she's
not using it?
No.
Okay. Uhuh.
So, with the world going back to how it
should be, she no longer
Yep.
has everything is back to where it ought
to be.
Yep. So, popcorns or daggers? I'm sorry.
Popcorn.
Popcorns or daggers?
Popcorns.
Um, are we going bags of pop kernels?
That's so 400 kernels of popcorn for the
400 years.
Bags of popcorn feels better. And I
guess I don't know. I like the 400
kernels for the 400 years.
400 kernels.
Okay. 400 kernels for 400 years of
popcorn. Um, I would say
that math is hard.
I'm like 300, which sounds so high, but
300 out of 400.
So, so
275.
Yeah, let me make the maties. So, out of
four popcorn kernels, how many would you
give? Then we can just add
out of 400.
2.75 popcorn kernels.
Yeah, it was really enjoyable. Um, her
personality sort of like tapered off as
the story went, which was a little
disappointing.
Um,
not for me.
That's fair.
I feel like I like from how it started,
at least in the retelling, I was like,
"Yeah,
it like feels like it's like fun and
quirky for a moment, but like can
quickly get like
Yeah,
we get it.
Yeah.
And so I'm glad that like like honestly
I felt the same watching New Girl back
in the day. Like she start like Jess
started overly quirky and then I feel
like it became a far more like
reasonable amount.
Mhm.
It that's fair.
Like it reduced the mania and the manic
pixie dream girl, you know?
So some of it I like probably flowed a
little bit better in the actual reading
of the book
because I kind of had to like
there was a lot to go in there. Um, like
I left out a bunch from like specific
stuff that happened in the labyrinth and
specific stuff with Athena and all this
other stuff that wasn't super vital to
the main story.
Yeah.
So like I would say
Yeah. like 275 300 out of four because
it was really
fun to read. It was different.
Yeah.
Um and it did flow in a really fun way.
So, I would recommend it to people. And
she does have Katie May, the author does
have in the author's notes specifically,
like if you have
certain triggers that you might want to
be avoiding, skip this chapter, like
skip this part. Like, it it's not going
to ruin the story. You'll still get the
gist of it. Like, if you don't want to
read about that, skip over it, which I
really appreciate it. Um, so yeah. Yeah.
Highly recommend.
275 kernels.
Yeah.
Unpopped.
Unpopped.
But buttered.
Butter your popcorn.
Did I tell you I started making my own
butter?
You did tell me that you were going to
start making your own butter. And then I
think I told Vance. Then Vance was like,
"Oh yeah, what's your process?" And I
was like, "I love that."
Yeah. I've done two batches now. I'll
have to discuss it with you.
One of them was
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Vance will be so
excited to hear about your butter.
I heard the sentence, but we also knew
it wasn't a euphemism. It was a really
He'll be so like my husband is like so
cottagecore.
Yeah, he he's it's adorable.
I love it so much. All right, 275
buttered kernels
but unpopped.
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